UKPC ticket, not sure how and limited time to respond!

Umkomaas

goonergaz70 said:

Coupon-mad said:

But don't expect the appeal to work.  There is no point trying POPLA.

That's not why you are sending a dispute, it is purely done do as not to ignore it entirely.

Come back if you get a court claim. No panicking about CCJs (doesn't happen as long as you follow all our advice) and no paying UKPC for a quiet life...please..,

I'm perplexed, if I'm not expecting the appeal to work why am I bothering? Excuse my ignorance

To show, should it get to a court case, that you have followed the PPCs procedures in an attempt to resolve the issue. Judges are not too keen on those who ignore everything, causing the PPC to have to bring it to court fir resolution. 

But it's a simple copy and paste of the initial appeal template from the NEWBIES FAQ Announcement, first post.  Just simply go through the phases. Unless you can obtain a landowner cancellation, nothing is going to get the charge cancelled, especially by ignoring it. 

fisherjim

Another point this will not be a council owned car park they are not allowed to use use ANPR you should never assume anything with parking it's what gets people in this position in the first place.

Coupon-mad

Coupon-mad said:

But don't expect the appeal to work.  There is no point trying POPLA.

That's not why you are sending a dispute, it is purely done so as not to ignore it entirely.

Come back if you get a court claim. No panicking about CCJs (doesn't happen as long as you follow all our advice) and no paying UKPC for a quiet life...please..,

I did explain why a dispute is done 'so as not to ignore it entirely' then I pointed out that court is where these cases are resolved (if the PPC try).

What you don't do is sponsor the scam by paying due to being scared of an unlikely court claim.

I posted the above because I knew from the way you were replying that you thought the appeal was meant to 'work' and that you'd come back later this month telling us it had 'failed'. Nope.

goonergaz70

Coupon-mad said:

Coupon-mad said:

But don't expect the appeal to work.  There is no point trying POPLA.

That's not why you are sending a dispute, it is purely done so as not to ignore it entirely.

Come back if you get a court claim. No panicking about CCJs (doesn't happen as long as you follow all our advice) and no paying UKPC for a quiet life...please..,

I did explain why a dispute is done 'so as not to ignore it entirely' then I pointed out that court is where these cases are resolved (if the PPC try).

What you don't do is sponsor the scam by paying due to being scared of an unlikely court claim.

I posted the above because I knew from the way you were replying that you thought the appeal was meant to 'work' and that you'd come back later this month telling us it had 'failed'. Nope.

Yeah thanks, the devil is in the detail...now after the next few posts and going back and re-reading it makes total sense.

I appeal (to them) using the blue template, it'd not about winning it's about going through the correct process so if they take me to court (it might not happen?) I have a better chance of winning.

Sometimes I can be a bit slow, but hopefully I'm now getting there

Coupon-mad

That's exactly it! 

UKPC are litigious but when a case is well defended they are routinely seen to discontinue and the scam is over.

It's a long game but quite fun /empowering for you and it wastes their time & money.

The likes of UKPC have been banned twice by the DVLA for extreme rogue practice and are ex-clampers, so they are considered just time-waster bullies, not worthy of anyone's money.

Not some sort if authority or power to be scared of.  Play the game.  IGNORE DEBT RECOVERY LETTERS.

If you move house within 6 years you MUST tell them by email to rectify your address.  That is the only CCJ risk (court claim going undefended to an old address). Everything else is fine.

goonergaz70

So I revisited the car park - what a really crappy set of signage! lol

So when you enter the car park there is this sign, which is positioned perfectly so I actually CANNOT SEE IT due to it's position in relation to my car (part between the windscreen and door) blocking it to perfection...it's like it was designed to catch me out!


Then the signs in the car park that you can actually see don't make it clear what the terms are, simply stating 'no unauthorised parking' with minimal extremely small print details of what the terms are;

goonergaz70

So I finally had my response to the appeal the other day, they are obviously not dropping the charge and they want me to confirm the drivers name and address by Wednesday...they go on to say how clear the signage is lol.

Anyway, what do I do now? Do I provide that information? Do I appeal again!? Do I just wait for them to send the POPLA number they will send me eventually?

Thanks in advance

Boat_to_Bolivia

You are not obliged to name the driver, so no don't reply.

Just sit back and wait.

Coupon-mad

Obviously you ignore it.  You want a POPLA Code.

KeithP

goonergaz70 said:

So I finally had my response to the appeal the other day, they are obviously not dropping the charge and they want me to confirm the drivers name and address by Wednesday...they go on to say how clear the signage is lol.

Anyway, what do I do now?

Nothing.

goonergaz70 said:

Do I provide that information?

No.

goonergaz70 said:

Do I appeal again!? Do I just wait for them to send the POPLA number they will send me eventually?

Yes, when UKPC reject your appeal and provide a PoPLA code.