Japanese toilets

_Sam_

Ally_E. said:

No wipes are ever flushable, it's a marketing gimick, please don't flush them down, have a bin next to the toilet to collect them, that's what I do and I use baby wipes, much cheaper than special toiler wipes. 

Alnat1 said:

All those wipes for any type of cleaning are single use plastic and should be avoided.

Do you have a link to a source that would support what you say? Or is it just your intuition, or unwillingness to acknowledge a potential distinction such as the below? 

Slinky said:

Gavin83 said:

Out of interest how do you know they're the flushable wipes and not make up wipes? Admittedly I'm far from an expert in make up wipes but they look fairly similar to me and I expect after making it all the way to a river the remaining deposits would look similar too. I expect I'm missing something.

They could well be. I don't use either so haven't examined them in any great degree. They aren't welcome down toilets either. Pee, poo and paper is all that should be flushed.

DullGreyGuy

victor2 said:

macman said:

victor2 said:

Some have an automatic lid that lifts when you walk in. Wife thinks it's cool but I can't see the point of it - how can it tell if you want the lid and seat raising, or just the lid?

Grandchildren would probably get lots of entertainment figuring out how to sneak into the bathroom without the toilet spotting them though!

It would be easy enough to supply it with a phone app that can be programmed to the appropriate gender settings. Assuming you take your phone with you to the loo. But I suppose the risk then is the fear that the Chinese could hack into every toilet in the country and lock the lids down...

Wouldn't just be the Chinese. I can imagine the attraction to junior hackers the world over to take control of toilets wherever they might be. 

Even if you are identified as a male approaching, do you also have to show your intention of number one or two? 

Not just hackers... partners encouraging their other half to exit too!

Only used one once... there was the female only "front wash" and the unisex "rear wash" with associated drying. The lid lifting assumed you wanted the seat in place either way but touch the front of the seat and it lifted too. 

FreeBear

_Sam_ said:

Ally_E. said:

No wipes are ever flushable, it's a marketing gimick, please don't flush them down, have a bin next to the toilet to collect them, that's what I do and I use baby wipes, much cheaper than special toiler wipes. 

Alnat1 said:

All those wipes for any type of cleaning are single use plastic and should be avoided.

Do you have a link to a source that would support what you say? Or is it just your intuition, or unwillingness to acknowledge a potential distinction such as the below? 

https://www.nwl.co.uk/binthewipe

If you read the FAQs at the bottom of the page -

What about 'Fine To Flush'? Is that ok?

We’d still rather you didn’t flush ANY wipe. It’s the only certain way to make sure your wipe doesn’t cause sewer strife!

_Sam_

FreeBear said:

 https://www.nwl.co.uk/binthewipe

If you read the FAQs at the bottom of the page -

What about 'Fine To Flush'? Is that ok?

We’d still rather you didn’t flush ANY wipe. It’s the only certain way to make sure your wipe doesn’t cause sewer strife!

That is why I find such statements entirely unconvincing. I know it means being "difficult", because it is surely such an easy thing to just stop doing something and not worry one's little head with fine distinctions 

Doozergirl

Saw this and thought of you...

victor2

Doozergirl said:

Saw this and thought of you...

Had to find the story after that clue! Here's the detail...

Leon shared his story of using Tesco's Active Flushable Toilet Wipes, which are anti bacterial toilet cleaner wipes. The lorry driver mistook them for toilet paper wipes after his girlfriend bought them.

A few days and multiple trips to the toilet later, Leon had developed a nasty rash. He said: "I thought the product was wet wipes you use to go to the toilet with - but as it turned out, that wasn't the case.

victor2

Just a postscript to this...

We went ahead and have the smart toilet now. Because it was in situ but not wired in for a few days, and had a standard UK plug on it, I ran it through an extension lead with an energy monitor on it. In May, with overnight temperatures dipping to about 10C, and the seat temperature at medium (35C), it averaged around 0.5kWh over 24 hours, which included using it a few times. When it does a "wash and dry", it uses around 1600W, but that is only for short durations!

It's properly wired in now and I can't easily measure its energy usage, but is working well. Totally agree with the opinion that if you can afford a Ferrari you don't ask what mpg it gives, but it is nice, even for a man!

Of course there are people for whom a smart toilet (it does do everything!) would be a huge aid to leading a more "normal" life. So while not money saving, they can still be more than pure luxury.

Murmansk

I took a trip to Japan about 4 years ago and was very impressed by their toilets.

I wanted to have one myself back home but did some research and found that they don't comply with our regulations re plumbing. Installing one here in a way that complies with our regulations would be quite a challenge.

It's something to do with preventing "back flow" where contaminated water could get sucked into the water supply pipes in the event that there was a failure in supply and some negative pressure in the pipes, this could result in nearby premises being supplied with contaminated water from the Japanese toilet

victor2

Those concerns are no longer an issue here. There's plenty to choose from with P trap or S trap connections, as required.
You can get ones that flush directly off the mains pressure, or require a cistern. Either way, it is not possible for water to "back flow".

moneysaver1978

Where did you order yours from?