Japanese toilets

victor2

Doozergirl said:

victor2 said:

Some have an automatic lid that lifts when you walk in. Wife thinks it's cool but I can't see the point of it - how can it tell if you want the lid and seat raising, or just the lid?  

I think you're missing the point of the toilet, which is provide you with a luxurious sit-down-wee experience as well.  The Japanese are meticulously clean, hence these loos.  

Otherwise, what's the point of having the loo seat heated 247 for the maybe one time you happen to be at the right toilet a day.   

Wife spends long enough in the bathroom as it is. Give her an all-singing, all-dancing toilet and she'll be gone for days at a time! 
Still waiting to talk to an actual owner of one, but by all accounts they love them.
Heated seat would have to be 24/7 in the winter at least. We're at that age where you wake up in the middle of the night, needing to "go"!

Doozergirl

victor2 said:

Doozergirl said:

victor2 said:

Some have an automatic lid that lifts when you walk in. Wife thinks it's cool but I can't see the point of it - how can it tell if you want the lid and seat raising, or just the lid?  

I think you're missing the point of the toilet, which is provide you with a luxurious sit-down-wee experience as well.  The Japanese are meticulously clean, hence these loos.  

Otherwise, what's the point of having the loo seat heated 247 for the maybe one time you happen to be at the right toilet a day.   

Wife spends long enough in the bathroom as it is. Give her an all-singing, all-dancing toilet and she'll be gone for days at a time! 
Still waiting to talk to an actual owner of one, but by all accounts they love them.
Heated seat would have to be 24/7 in the winter at least. We're at that age where you wake up in the middle of the night, needing to "go"!

I've fitted several into projects and our friend runs a chain of restaurants where they always feature, so I've experienced them more than most over the last 8 years or so.   

There's no doubt that they're fabulous.  Clearly I don't earn enough for them to feature as a must-have in my life, but I think they're like any modern appliance - once you have one it's very hard to go back to not having one.  It doesn't really make sense that we only wipe with paper.  

DullGreyGuy

Doozergirl said:
The stand up wee is why I hate shared toilets.  I was in a restaurant on Sunday, early lunch, and only the 4th toilet was acceptable - because men. 

Can't say I've been in too many women's toilets but the Mrs complains that many of them are rank even without the aid of men

Brie

I'm wondering whether this would be a weird thing to consider when buying a house.  I mean, would someone notice?  "Oh neat, the toilet seat is automatic!!"  but not realise what other singing and dancing the toilet does?  (especially given Doozergirl's comments!!)

elsien

DullGreyGuy said:

Doozergirl said:
The stand up wee is why I hate shared toilets.  I was in a restaurant on Sunday, early lunch, and only the 4th toilet was acceptable - because men. 

Can't say I've been in too many women's toilets but the Mrs complains that many of them are rank even without the aid of men

As a semi-regular user of men’s toilets when the queues for the women’s are just too long, give me a rank woman’s toilet over a rank men’s one any day. 

Although you are correct, both can be minging.

victor2

Doozergirl said:

victor2 said:

Doozergirl said:

victor2 said:

Some have an automatic lid that lifts when you walk in. Wife thinks it's cool but I can't see the point of it - how can it tell if you want the lid and seat raising, or just the lid?  

I think you're missing the point of the toilet, which is provide you with a luxurious sit-down-wee experience as well.  The Japanese are meticulously clean, hence these loos.  

Otherwise, what's the point of having the loo seat heated 247 for the maybe one time you happen to be at the right toilet a day.   

Wife spends long enough in the bathroom as it is. Give her an all-singing, all-dancing toilet and she'll be gone for days at a time! 
Still waiting to talk to an actual owner of one, but by all accounts they love them.
Heated seat would have to be 24/7 in the winter at least. We're at that age where you wake up in the middle of the night, needing to "go"!

I've fitted several into projects and our friend runs a chain of restaurants where they always feature, so I've experienced them more than most over the last 8 years or so.   

There's no doubt that they're fabulous.  Clearly I don't earn enough for them to feature as a must-have in my life, but I think they're like any modern appliance - once you have one it's very hard to go back to not having one.  It doesn't really make sense that we only wipe with paper.  

Without going into too much detail, it seems you don't need paper at all with one. Just keep a roll handy for power failures or other dire circumstances! 
I've spent a lot of money on appliances, to ensure I get long lasting, and economical, ones, but it seems this bit of luxury is going to be more like a Ferrari than an electric runabout.

Gavin83

Doozergirl said:

victor2 said:

Doozergirl said:

victor2 said:

Some have an automatic lid that lifts when you walk in. Wife thinks it's cool but I can't see the point of it - how can it tell if you want the lid and seat raising, or just the lid?  

I think you're missing the point of the toilet, which is provide you with a luxurious sit-down-wee experience as well.  The Japanese are meticulously clean, hence these loos.  

Otherwise, what's the point of having the loo seat heated 247 for the maybe one time you happen to be at the right toilet a day.   

Wife spends long enough in the bathroom as it is. Give her an all-singing, all-dancing toilet and she'll be gone for days at a time! 
Still waiting to talk to an actual owner of one, but by all accounts they love them.
Heated seat would have to be 24/7 in the winter at least. We're at that age where you wake up in the middle of the night, needing to "go"!

I've fitted several into projects and our friend runs a chain of restaurants where they always feature, so I've experienced them more than most over the last 8 years or so.   

There's no doubt that they're fabulous.  Clearly I don't earn enough for them to feature as a must-have in my life, but I think they're like any modern appliance - once you have one it's very hard to go back to not having one.  It doesn't really make sense that we only wipe with paper.  

If it's the water function that appeals it's likely far easier and cheaper to just get one of those handheld mini shower heads installed instead. It obviously won't dry though. We did consider a Japanese toilet but frankly I'd see it as a bit of a novelty and I wasn't willing to pay £1500+ for it. I instead spent a lot less for a normal toilet from a leading brand.

Personally I use those flushable wet wipes for number twos. They're damp with a soap of some sort built in and it leaves you feeling a lot cleaner than just normal paper. Without meaning to be too graphic here there are times when normal paper is completely clean after wiping and these wet wipes will still get an awful lot more mess off, mess that would ordinarily still be there. I struggle without them now, to the point that if I go away somewhere I take a pack with me. You can't take your Japanese toilet with you!

victor2

Brie said:

I'm wondering whether this would be a weird thing to consider when buying a house.  I mean, would someone notice?  "Oh neat, the toilet seat is automatic!!"  but not realise what other singing and dancing the toilet does?  (especially given Doozergirl's comments!!)

Our bathroom needs refurbishing and doing so would doubtless add value to the house as they are a selling point. But a Japanese toilet will not add value IMO, given that they are expensive and have a running cost beyond the amount of water they use.
However, the wife has experienced such luxury and won't accept anything less!

FreeBear

Gavin83 said: Personally I use those flushable wet wipes for number twos.

Those "flushable" wipes do not break down like toilet paper does, and they can still clog up the drains. Water companies hate the things, whist plumbers (and the likes) see them as a steady little earner due to the blockages they cause.

Ebe_Scrooge

victor2 said:

Doozergirl said:

victor2 said:

Some have an automatic lid that lifts when you walk in. Wife thinks it's cool but I can't see the point of it - how can it tell if you want the lid and seat raising, or just the lid?  

I think you're missing the point of the toilet, which is provide you with a luxurious sit-down-wee experience as well.  The Japanese are meticulously clean, hence these loos.  

Otherwise, what's the point of having the loo seat heated 247 for the maybe one time you happen to be at the right toilet a day.   

Wife spends long enough in the bathroom as it is. Give her an all-singing, all-dancing toilet and she'll be gone for days at a time! 

If that were me I'd be counting that as a huge selling-point