The Great Debate. EV's will cost less than petrol cars over 5 years.

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JKenH said:

ididgetwhereiamtoday said:

MikeJXE said:

So your are saying an old EV is better to drive than my 2016 Jaguar XE

That costs a lot less to buy

That does 50+ to the gallon

Is like riding on air.

Is effortless to drive 

Has parking sensors and rear view camera 

Heated leather electric seats

Doesn't need a driveway to get cheaper energy 

Can be recharged with fuel in less than 5 minutes 

I don't thinks so

I think so yes, Even an old top spec Leaf has all those luxuries and is effortless to drive. 360' cameras are brilliant when parking.
It's lovely never needing to go to the petrol station too.

Everything you say about the Leaf is true. Mine worked perfectly for me for 90% of my journeys but I had so many issues with chargers in the last year of ownership that I bought a petrol Golf Estate for the journeys outside its range. I was going to keep the Leaf as a second car even though  the economics didn’t really stack up but my son was looking for a 40kWh to replace his 30kWh Leaf so it made sense to let him have mine rather than incur the £2k or so dealer’s margin to change. Lucky for us we moved the 30kWh Leaf on before prices collapsed.

The Leaf makes a perfect family car if you also have an ICEv for the long runs or even as a sole car if it suits your lifestyle. On the Leaf forums and Facebook group many owners happily make epic cross country trips even in 24kWh models but it’s not my idea of fun anymore than swimming in the sea on New Years Day. When I was much, much younger I drove an open top sports car with no heater 250 miles in freezing conditions. When I got kids I had a 4 seat BMW convertible before another succession of open top 2 seaters. I was passionate about open top sports cars and couldn’t understand why everyone didn’t want to drive them. As I got older I grew to prefer a roof over my head and aircon and Volvos and Mercedes displaced the MGs, TVRs and Loti.

I entirely understand why you love EVs. Their benefits to you outweigh any inconvenience of public charging. I also understand why @MikeJXE prefers his Jag. We all have different priorities and passions and our choices are the ones that work for us.

Very much this. I've a 40kw leaf and it does 90+% of our journeys. Generally good for 120 miles from full, but I mostly keep it within the 20% - 80% range. On a 3 year lease at 10k miles a year, and I've done 10k in my first year. Very enjoyable to drive, boot bigger than I expected, holds our two dogs with ease. I find myself 'going for a run in the car' more than I've done for years; to climb a hill, visit a favourite dog walk, go and see nesting puffins.  I've no home charging, and that hasn't been a problem.

However I also have a van as a private vehicle. It's used to carry bikes, pull a large caravan and has done 3-4 house moves for us and relatives. I fill it with diesel and it tells me I have a 750 mile range. I'm halfway up Scotland, and if I wasn't towing I could fill it at home and drive to a channel port without refuelling. 

Different tools for different uses. I was once told, when grappling with a difficult decision, every choice you make is a compromise, you need to weigh up the benefits and disadvantages and pick the option which has the best balance for you. At the moment two vehicles covers more bases than one could.