Private Parking charge challenge 11 October 2022 at 8:57PM edited 11 October 2022 at 9:09PM in Parking tickets, fines & parking 71 replies 1.8K views

Umkomaas

Can you please advise pro and cons between the RAC 14 day appeal. your day 25/26  or just wait for them to contact the keeper thanks 

it's explained in the NEWBIES FAQ Announcement, first post, where it explains why you await those days for a windscreen ticket. 

Fruitcake

As previously advised, use the information from the NEWBIES thread. We know what we are doing. C-m knows what she is doing.
Do not go anywhere else for advice.
If a NTD was left on the car, then appeal around day 25/26. The NEWBIES explains the reason for doing this.

Do not refer to receipts belonging to the driver. Only use copies of receipts from an occupant of the vehicle. 

First though you should attempt to find the landowner's details or the managing agent's details. These are sometimes shown on entrance signs, and on the retail site's web page.

The keeper should also complain to their MP as well as the landowner or their agent.

Note that UKPC signs are always inadequate because the charge for breaching Ts and Cs is in such tiny font that it cannot be read.

Sledger

Thanks Fruitcake

None of the retailers later visited have the Landlords Details and some have received PCN on their vehicles displaying their LOGO and send it to HO to resolve. I asked what happens if there is an emergency effecting the building safety and got "£$%^% 

Can you please clarify what this statement relates to though     
"Do not refer to receipts belonging to the driver. Only use copies of receipts from an occupant of the vehicle"
as all I have is a windscreen PCN. 

Noted and this  draft will go online  on day 25 for this Disabled Bay PCN.

Re PARKING CHARGE PCN number:******

I dispute your 'parking charge', as the keeper of the vehicle. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner.

There will be no admissions as to who was driving and no assumptions can be drawn. Since your Parking Charge is a vague template, I require an explanation of the allegation and your evidence. You must include a close-up actual photograph of the sign you contend was at the location on the material date as well as your images of the vehicle.

The UKPC parking Charge from a subsequent visit as attached states only disabled people with a blue badge can park in a disabled bay.  UKPC demanding drivers to display a blue badge when using the disabled parking bays, does not mean they are not disabled; the Equality Act does not require the driver to display any sort of badge or permit. Anyone who fits the lawful definition of disability is entitled to make use of the ‘reasonable adjustments. UKPC are adding arbitrary rules to the lawful right of someone to use a ‘reasonable adjustment’, and this could be considered discrimination and a breach of the Equality Act 2010. 

A sign that says only disabled people with a blue badge can park in a disabled bay is discrimination against people who have a disability and/or protected characteristics under the EA 2010, but don't have a blue badge. Since the landowner employ UKPC then they are jointly in breach of the Act.

An elderly occupant of the vehicle is disabled but does not drive or have a Blue Badge. 

Please provide the contact details as to who owns the car park as I wish to send them a copy of this letter.

Name of keeper ________ Address________________

Fruitcake

Sledger said:

Thanks Fruitcake

None of the retailers later visited have the Landlords Details and some have received PCN on their vehicles displaying their LOGO and send it to HO to resolve. I asked what happens if there is an emergency effecting the building safety and got "£$%^% 

Can you please clarify what this statement relates to though     
"Do not refer to receipts belonging to the driver. Only use copies of receipts from an occupant of the vehicle"

What I meant was, don't say, here is a copy of the driver's receipts, as it may be possible for the PPC to identify the driver from that information.
Simply say that the receipts are from an occupant of the car.

This applies to complaints and appeals.

Umkomaas

An elderly occupant of the vehicle is disabled but does not have a Blue Batch. 

You might want to have another go at that! 😊

1505grandad

And this:-

" UKPC are adding arbitrary rules to the lawful right of someone to use a ‘reasonable adjustment’, and this could be considered discrimination and a breach of the Equality Act 2010. UKCPS and the Landover could therefore jointly be in breach of the Act and potentially liable to finding themselves in court.

Sledger

Umkomaas said:

An elderly occupant of the vehicle is disabled but does not have a Blue Batch. 

You might want to have another go at that! 😊

1). Any suggestions  on the above  would be welcomed

2). And 1505 grandad  just omit "and potentially liable to finding themselves in court." or the entire paragraph ?

Coupon-mad

Yep, you have UKCPS twice.

If this is UKPC they will settle for £15 if you are saying the driver did have a Blue Badge.

Fruitcake

1 It's not a Blue Batch.

2 The point is that UKPC and UKCPS are two completely different companies.

Coupon-mad

We are just pointing out typos.

Batch and UKCPS.