Examples of surprising prices

jackieblack

Rosa_Damascena said:

jackieblack said:

arnoldy said:

In terms of low prices: Potatoes, highly nutritious, versatile, tasty. Very cheap.

Many people need to learn to bulk out meals with potato. And seasonal veg - at the moment carrots, cabbage/brassicas all very cheap. 

Unless you’re diabetic, in which case they’re practically poison. Carrots are not far behind them (along with any veg grown underground).

There is a big difference between the two: carrots have a much lower GI and when you multiply that by the serving size a much better glycaemic load. 

*Slinks off vowing to use up the bag of carrots that has been lurking in her fridge for a week*

It’s true that carrots aren’t as high in carbs (7g net per 100g vs 19g for potatoes) but according to my BGM they both spike my BG, not quite to the same level, but both are best avoided - veg grown above ground only for me

TimSynths

jackieblack said:

Rosa_Damascena said:

jackieblack said:

arnoldy said:

In terms of low prices: Potatoes, highly nutritious, versatile, tasty. Very cheap.

Many people need to learn to bulk out meals with potato. And seasonal veg - at the moment carrots, cabbage/brassicas all very cheap. 

Unless you’re diabetic, in which case they’re practically poison. Carrots are not far behind them (along with any veg grown underground).

There is a big difference between the two: carrots have a much lower GI and when you multiply that by the serving size a much better glycaemic load. 

*Slinks off vowing to use up the bag of carrots that has been lurking in her fridge for a week*

It’s true that carrots aren’t as high in carbs (7g net vs 19g for potatoes) but according to my BGM they both spike my BG, not quite to the same level, but both are best avoided - veg grown above ground only for me

I agree, I don't eat any root vegs, keeps managing your sugar levels a lot simpler. If only Broccoli tasted as nice as a potato....

jackieblack

TimSynths said:

jackieblack said:

Rosa_Damascena said:

jackieblack said:

arnoldy said:

In terms of low prices: Potatoes, highly nutritious, versatile, tasty. Very cheap.

Many people need to learn to bulk out meals with potato. And seasonal veg - at the moment carrots, cabbage/brassicas all very cheap. 

Unless you’re diabetic, in which case they’re practically poison. Carrots are not far behind them (along with any veg grown underground).

There is a big difference between the two: carrots have a much lower GI and when you multiply that by the serving size a much better glycaemic load. 

*Slinks off vowing to use up the bag of carrots that has been lurking in her fridge for a week*

It’s true that carrots aren’t as high in carbs (7g net vs 19g for potatoes) but according to my BGM they both spike my BG, not quite to the same level, but both are best avoided - veg grown above ground only for me

I agree, I don't eat any root vegs, keeps managing your sugar levels a lot simpler. If only Broccoli tasted as nice as a potato....

In the early days, when I felt my resolve weakening, I used to tell myself that although I missed potatoes I’d miss feet and eyesight more - that’s still true but I’ve realised that it’s the convenience of, for example, just being able to microwave a jacket potato for a quick meal that I miss rather than the potato itself and, of course, bulking out a meal with cheap carbs means the grocery bill was much less expensive, which was arnoldy’s point, for those who are able to. Unfortunately, not everyone can - it was the phrase  ‘learn to’ that irritated me.

YoungBlueEyes

I was in Aldi the other day and got a bag of carrots cos they're always handy to have in. I diced half of them small, and half of them in big chunks, micro'd them for a few minutes to take the edge off, then bagged and froze them.

They're no nearer to being used, but at least they ain't getting any older!

Have you room in your freezer @Rosa_Damascena?

arnoldy

Last week I spoke to someone who was complaining about "eat or heat" stuff, who had loads of dogs. Bearing in mind these dogs cost £1,000-£2000 to buy, they cost £500pa+ each to feed, and the insurance is £200-500pa you do have to squint at that.

It's not until you add up the costs that you realise that you are in danger of spending more on the animals than yourself.

Surprising to me how much animals cost, and how people with no emergency funds or limited farthings to rub together, get this financial commitment which they really can't afford.

YoungBlueEyes

I agree @arnoldy. They're a dear do when they go wrong and it's something you have to shell out for.

On the other hand, some people spend money on absolute nonsense for their dogs/cats. I'm talking about the nail varnish/perfume/costume/shoes type of things. Fancy harnesses and leads when what you really need is a bit of training and a cheaper lead. Personalised feeding+water bowls - your pet can't read and is probably colour blind anyway. The newsagent local to me sells pet Christmas cards, both to and from your pet. Madness.

Spend your money on flea/tick/worming treatments, good quality food and a suitable bed. The rest is consumerist noise. 

basketcase

Rosa_Damascena said:

jackieblack said:

arnoldy said:

In terms of low prices: Potatoes, highly nutritious, versatile, tasty. Very cheap.

Many people need to learn to bulk out meals with potato. And seasonal veg - at the moment carrots, cabbage/brassicas all very cheap. 

Unless you’re diabetic, in which case they’re practically poison. Carrots are not far behind them (along with any veg grown underground).

There is a big difference between the two: carrots have a much lower GI and when you multiply that by the serving size a much better glycaemic load. 

*Slinks off vowing to use up the bag of carrots that has been lurking in her fridge for a week*

@jackieblack   Maybe it depends if you're Type 2 or Type 1?  The BDA doesn't consider potatoes to be "practically poison" , although they do advise on portion size, since they have a medium GL.

As for carrots, as Rosa said, they have a much better (quite low) Glycaemic Load.  In fact Diabetes UK recommends celery and carrots with either 'healthy' hummus or beetroot hummus as a good snack for Types 1 and 2.  however, I do understand that Type 1 (which my son has) is an auto-immune disease destroying insulin producing cells and replacing that insulin is the only control.  It may be different for Type 2, where (I believe) it's more controlling the sugar level.

Interestingly, it seems that if you cook, cool and reheat spuds (and to some extent, pasta) this creates resistant starch which promotes good gut bacteria and helps control blood sugar levels and insulin sensitivity.  Maybe worth looking into?  It seems a pity to lose a whole 'food group' you enjoy if you don't have to.  Although it does make it easier to calculate carbs.

Rosa_Damascena

jackieblack said:

Rosa_Damascena said:

jackieblack said:

arnoldy said:

In terms of low prices: Potatoes, highly nutritious, versatile, tasty. Very cheap.

Many people need to learn to bulk out meals with potato. And seasonal veg - at the moment carrots, cabbage/brassicas all very cheap. 

Unless you’re diabetic, in which case they’re practically poison. Carrots are not far behind them (along with any veg grown underground).

There is a big difference between the two: carrots have a much lower GI and when you multiply that by the serving size a much better glycaemic load. 

*Slinks off vowing to use up the bag of carrots that has been lurking in her fridge for a week*

It’s true that carrots aren’t as high in carbs (7g net per 100g vs 19g for potatoes) but according to my BGM they both spike my BG, not quite to the same level, but both are best avoided - veg grown above ground only for me

I find this compelling. Do you eat your carrots "neat" or accompanied? Carrot is my go-to veg as once prepped it is no hassle, I just pull it out of the fridge and graze. To find it's messing with my BG would be counterproductive, I'd have to stick to celery which I am not always in the mood for.

TheAble

arnoldy said:

Last week I spoke to someone who was complaining about "eat or heat" stuff, who had loads of dogs. Bearing in mind these dogs cost £1,000-£2000 to buy, they cost £500pa+ each to feed, and the insurance is £200-500pa you do have to squint at that.

It's not until you add up the costs that you realise that you are in danger of spending more on the animals than yourself.

Surprising to me how much animals cost, and how people with no emergency funds or limited farthings to rub together, get this financial commitment which they really can't afford.

Yes. It's the time commitment in exercising them as well I think would be a limiting factor on your earning power - another "cost" which is possibly often overlooked. A bigger vehicle too to transport them in - more expense.

It's perhaps unsurprising that over on the DFW board when people post up their SOAs, that pets often feature in the mix.

maisie_cat

arnoldy said:

Last week I spoke to someone who was complaining about "eat or heat" stuff, who had loads of dogs. Bearing in mind these dogs cost £1,000-£2000 to buy, they cost £500pa+ each to feed, and the insurance is £200-500pa you do have to squint at that.

It's not until you add up the costs that you realise that you are in danger of spending more on the animals than yourself.

Surprising to me how much animals cost, and how people with no emergency funds or limited farthings to rub together, get this financial commitment which they really can't afford.

Although we don't spend more on the cat's food than ours, she does have a much better quality of food than us.
I suspect it's a common thing because we can eat chickpea spinach curry or similar as a cheap dinner but she cannot.