Combination microwave ovens

Effician

Rosa_Damascena said:

Effician said:

Albermarle said:

Effician said:

Albermarle said:

 i was a skeptic of airfryers until just over a year ago but now a total convert on the grounds of taste,speed & running costs.

I am still a sceptic of the latter point. They are cheaper to run than a conventional oven, but the savings in cold hard cash are not that much, and they are not as robust as a conventional oven and will need replacing more often.

I think there has so much publicity/marketing  about airfryers and the cost of living crisis, that it has become a bit of an urban myth that they are big money savers.

This is why i listed it lower down the order of benefits, however the cost of a good unused ( plenty about) but second hand unit like our Cosori 5.5l @ £50 that we bought last year has more than paid for itself

Like i said i was a skeptic but gave it a try & am pleased i did, even if it didn't save any hard cash i would still have one.

We are getting one for Xmas as have been sold on the apparent speed of cooking simple meals for one ( often one member of the family wants something different or at a different time) and to experiment a bit with it.
It cost £90 ( 5.7L with a window ) and I reckon it might save about £50 a year in electricity, depending on how often it gets used.

Just had tea so did a check on energy used as an example,   meal for 3 consisting of 3 jacket pots ( total 700g)  + 1kg of tandoori chicken drumsticks & thighs all cooked from raw to be served with salad ,   prepped & served in 45mins .

At 5pm start cooking potatoes in pressure cooker on induction for 35 min , 5:10 start cooking chicken portions in airfryer ( 25 min programme) , plenty of time to prep salad before pots & chicken done,  5:35 remove chicken & rest for 10 mins while pots go in airfryer for 10 mins at 205c to crisp up skin a bit, serve at 5:45  , total electric used was just under 0.8kWh.

No wonder your name is @Effician !

When i was looking at buying a airfryer i could find no info at all about running costs which is why i gave the example above, the usual answer to any questions i had were vague at best usually giving no idea of weight of item to be cooked or energy used, i think this gives rise to a lot of the skepticism because there are no actual figures .

ThisIsWeird

Effician said:

Rosa_Damascena said:

Effician said:

Albermarle said:

Effician said:

Albermarle said:

 i was a skeptic of airfryers until just over a year ago but now a total convert on the grounds of taste,speed & running costs.

I am still a sceptic of the latter point. They are cheaper to run than a conventional oven, but the savings in cold hard cash are not that much, and they are not as robust as a conventional oven and will need replacing more often.

I think there has so much publicity/marketing  about airfryers and the cost of living crisis, that it has become a bit of an urban myth that they are big money savers.

This is why i listed it lower down the order of benefits, however the cost of a good unused ( plenty about) but second hand unit like our Cosori 5.5l @ £50 that we bought last year has more than paid for itself

Like i said i was a skeptic but gave it a try & am pleased i did, even if it didn't save any hard cash i would still have one.

We are getting one for Xmas as have been sold on the apparent speed of cooking simple meals for one ( often one member of the family wants something different or at a different time) and to experiment a bit with it.
It cost £90 ( 5.7L with a window ) and I reckon it might save about £50 a year in electricity, depending on how often it gets used.

Just had tea so did a check on energy used as an example,   meal for 3 consisting of 3 jacket pots ( total 700g)  + 1kg of tandoori chicken drumsticks & thighs all cooked from raw to be served with salad ,   prepped & served in 45mins .

At 5pm start cooking potatoes in pressure cooker on induction for 35 min , 5:10 start cooking chicken portions in airfryer ( 25 min programme) , plenty of time to prep salad before pots & chicken done,  5:35 remove chicken & rest for 10 mins while pots go in airfryer for 10 mins at 205c to crisp up skin a bit, serve at 5:45  , total electric used was just under 0.8kWh.

No wonder your name is @Effician !

When i was looking at buying a airfryer i could find no info at all about running costs which is why i gave the example above, the usual answer to any questions i had were vague at best usually giving no idea of weight of item to be cooked or energy used, i think this gives rise to a lot of the skepticism because there are no actual figures .

BBC R4 did do a test on air fryers, to see if the claims to be cheaper to run than conventional ovens were true.
The answer was a very clear 'yes', to the tune of roughly a half (possibly less), I recall, but with caveats, such as whether their smaller size meant that two cooking batches would be required.
But with near zero preheat time, a much faster cooking time, and with a lower-powered element, they - in general - cost less than half the energy cost to run.
And, they make a darned fine job of crisping t'outsides whilst keeping the innards moist on many foodstuffs. 
But they are small.
The photos you often see of the pans being filled nearly to the top with chips just ain't going to work!

Effician

ThisIsWeird said:

Effician said:

Rosa_Damascena said:

Effician said:

Albermarle said:

Effician said:

Albermarle said:

 i was a skeptic of airfryers until just over a year ago but now a total convert on the grounds of taste,speed & running costs.

I am still a sceptic of the latter point. They are cheaper to run than a conventional oven, but the savings in cold hard cash are not that much, and they are not as robust as a conventional oven and will need replacing more often.

I think there has so much publicity/marketing  about airfryers and the cost of living crisis, that it has become a bit of an urban myth that they are big money savers.

This is why i listed it lower down the order of benefits, however the cost of a good unused ( plenty about) but second hand unit like our Cosori 5.5l @ £50 that we bought last year has more than paid for itself

Like i said i was a skeptic but gave it a try & am pleased i did, even if it didn't save any hard cash i would still have one.

We are getting one for Xmas as have been sold on the apparent speed of cooking simple meals for one ( often one member of the family wants something different or at a different time) and to experiment a bit with it.
It cost £90 ( 5.7L with a window ) and I reckon it might save about £50 a year in electricity, depending on how often it gets used.

Just had tea so did a check on energy used as an example,   meal for 3 consisting of 3 jacket pots ( total 700g)  + 1kg of tandoori chicken drumsticks & thighs all cooked from raw to be served with salad ,   prepped & served in 45mins .

At 5pm start cooking potatoes in pressure cooker on induction for 35 min , 5:10 start cooking chicken portions in airfryer ( 25 min programme) , plenty of time to prep salad before pots & chicken done,  5:35 remove chicken & rest for 10 mins while pots go in airfryer for 10 mins at 205c to crisp up skin a bit, serve at 5:45  , total electric used was just under 0.8kWh.

No wonder your name is @Effician !

When i was looking at buying a airfryer i could find no info at all about running costs which is why i gave the example above, the usual answer to any questions i had were vague at best usually giving no idea of weight of item to be cooked or energy used, i think this gives rise to a lot of the skepticism because there are no actual figures .

BBC R4 did do a test on air fryers, to see if the claims to be cheaper to run than conventional ovens were true.
The answer was a very clear 'yes', to the tune of roughly a half (possibly less), I recall, but with caveats, such as whether their smaller size meant that two cooking batches would be required.
But with near zero preheat time, a much faster cooking time, and with a lower-powered element, they - in general - cost less than half the energy cost to run.
And, they make a darned fine job of crisping t'outsides whilst keeping the innards moist on many foodstuffs. 
But they are small.
The photos you often see of the pans being filled nearly to the top with chips just ain't going to work!

This one.... https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/5hQ8v7qzV8BSNxhWCG39TqK/can-cooking-with-an-air-fryer-save-you-money

Sadly not enough info in that to convince a skeptic on the running costs unless you regularly cook a single jacket spud or single chicken leg of unknown weight on it's own in a full sized oven.

I have my own workaround for chips to get that photo look but it does involve batch peeling/slicing & cooking my own chips til fully done in a 6l deep fat fryer before freezing  , they then only take 10ish mins in air fryer when we fancy a quick snack.

Rosa_Damascena

ThisIsWeird said:

Effician said:

Rosa_Damascena said:

Effician said:

Albermarle said:

Effician said:

Albermarle said:

 i was a skeptic of airfryers until just over a year ago but now a total convert on the grounds of taste,speed & running costs.

I am still a sceptic of the latter point. They are cheaper to run than a conventional oven, but the savings in cold hard cash are not that much, and they are not as robust as a conventional oven and will need replacing more often.

I think there has so much publicity/marketing  about airfryers and the cost of living crisis, that it has become a bit of an urban myth that they are big money savers.

This is why i listed it lower down the order of benefits, however the cost of a good unused ( plenty about) but second hand unit like our Cosori 5.5l @ £50 that we bought last year has more than paid for itself

Like i said i was a skeptic but gave it a try & am pleased i did, even if it didn't save any hard cash i would still have one.

We are getting one for Xmas as have been sold on the apparent speed of cooking simple meals for one ( often one member of the family wants something different or at a different time) and to experiment a bit with it.
It cost £90 ( 5.7L with a window ) and I reckon it might save about £50 a year in electricity, depending on how often it gets used.

Just had tea so did a check on energy used as an example,   meal for 3 consisting of 3 jacket pots ( total 700g)  + 1kg of tandoori chicken drumsticks & thighs all cooked from raw to be served with salad ,   prepped & served in 45mins .

At 5pm start cooking potatoes in pressure cooker on induction for 35 min , 5:10 start cooking chicken portions in airfryer ( 25 min programme) , plenty of time to prep salad before pots & chicken done,  5:35 remove chicken & rest for 10 mins while pots go in airfryer for 10 mins at 205c to crisp up skin a bit, serve at 5:45  , total electric used was just under 0.8kWh.

No wonder your name is @Effician !

When i was looking at buying a airfryer i could find no info at all about running costs which is why i gave the example above, the usual answer to any questions i had were vague at best usually giving no idea of weight of item to be cooked or energy used, i think this gives rise to a lot of the skepticism because there are no actual figures .

BBC R4 did do a test on air fryers, to see if the claims to be cheaper to run than conventional ovens were true.
The answer was a very clear 'yes', to the tune of roughly a half (possibly less), I recall, but with caveats, such as whether their smaller size meant that two cooking batches would be required.
But with near zero preheat time, a much faster cooking time, and with a lower-powered element, they - in general - cost less than half the energy cost to run.
And, they make a darned fine job of crisping t'outsides whilst keeping the innards moist on many foodstuffs. 
But they are small.
The photos you often see of the pans being filled nearly to the top with chips just ain't going to work!

Even a non-cook such as myself knows whilst stuff may get cooked it has no chance of crisping up with so much moisture in the unit.

@Effician - Sliced Bread is always an entertaining listen and their findings are more cost-effective than me losing income to sit and do my own systematic review on any given subject! As long as you accept by virtue of the fact there is a smaller volume that needs to be heated that your conventional electric oven, a (relatively) low outlay on an air fryer more than compensates for what could be lost in time spent in evaluation. 

ThisIsWeird

'Sliced Bread'! That was the prog!

Anyhoo, our 4 litre A-F continues to be an asset. So quick and convenient for many little dishes and side-orders.

Albermarle

Effician said:

Albermarle said:

Effician said:

Albermarle said:

 i was a skeptic of airfryers until just over a year ago but now a total convert on the grounds of taste,speed & running costs.

I am still a sceptic of the latter point. They are cheaper to run than a conventional oven, but the savings in cold hard cash are not that much, and they are not as robust as a conventional oven and will need replacing more often.

I think there has so much publicity/marketing  about airfryers and the cost of living crisis, that it has become a bit of an urban myth that they are big money savers.

This is why i listed it lower down the order of benefits, however the cost of a good unused ( plenty about) but second hand unit like our Cosori 5.5l @ £50 that we bought last year has more than paid for itself

Like i said i was a skeptic but gave it a try & am pleased i did, even if it didn't save any hard cash i would still have one.

We are getting one for Xmas as have been sold on the apparent speed of cooking simple meals for one ( often one member of the family wants something different or at a different time) and to experiment a bit with it.
It cost £90 ( 5.7L with a window ) and I reckon it might save about £50 a year in electricity, depending on how often it gets used.

Just had tea so did a check on energy used as an example,   meal for 3 consisting of 3 jacket pots ( total 700g)  + 1kg of tandoori chicken drumsticks & thighs all cooked from raw to be served with salad ,   prepped & served in 45mins .

At 5pm start cooking potatoes in pressure cooker on induction for 35 min , 5:10 start cooking chicken portions in airfryer ( 25 min programme) , plenty of time to prep salad before pots & chicken done,  5:35 remove chicken & rest for 10 mins while pots go in airfryer for 10 mins at 205c to crisp up skin a bit, serve at 5:45  , total electric used was just under 0.8kWh.

That sounds about right and if instead you used a conventional fan oven for twice time.
Then that would use about 1.5 KWH ( only be using full power for first 10/15 mins) . So the saving would be around 0.75KWh - about 20p , maybe 25p at most.

Effician

Albermarle said:

Effician said:

Albermarle said:

Effician said:

Albermarle said:

 i was a skeptic of airfryers until just over a year ago but now a total convert on the grounds of taste,speed & running costs.

I am still a sceptic of the latter point. They are cheaper to run than a conventional oven, but the savings in cold hard cash are not that much, and they are not as robust as a conventional oven and will need replacing more often.

I think there has so much publicity/marketing  about airfryers and the cost of living crisis, that it has become a bit of an urban myth that they are big money savers.

This is why i listed it lower down the order of benefits, however the cost of a good unused ( plenty about) but second hand unit like our Cosori 5.5l @ £50 that we bought last year has more than paid for itself

Like i said i was a skeptic but gave it a try & am pleased i did, even if it didn't save any hard cash i would still have one.

We are getting one for Xmas as have been sold on the apparent speed of cooking simple meals for one ( often one member of the family wants something different or at a different time) and to experiment a bit with it.
It cost £90 ( 5.7L with a window ) and I reckon it might save about £50 a year in electricity, depending on how often it gets used.

Just had tea so did a check on energy used as an example,   meal for 3 consisting of 3 jacket pots ( total 700g)  + 1kg of tandoori chicken drumsticks & thighs all cooked from raw to be served with salad ,   prepped & served in 45mins .

At 5pm start cooking potatoes in pressure cooker on induction for 35 min , 5:10 start cooking chicken portions in airfryer ( 25 min programme) , plenty of time to prep salad before pots & chicken done,  5:35 remove chicken & rest for 10 mins while pots go in airfryer for 10 mins at 205c to crisp up skin a bit, serve at 5:45  , total electric used was just under 0.8kWh.

That sounds about right and if instead you used a conventional fan oven for twice time.
Then that would use about 1.5 KWH ( only be using full power for first 10/15 mins) . So the saving would be around 0.75KWh - about 20p , maybe 25p at most.

Not bad then even though you are only guessing,   a 50% saving on electric + quicker cooking time & in my opinion better tasting food with an easy to clean  appliance,   you've sold it to me.

Using it on average once a day @ 0.20p saving x 365 days =£73, looks like i'm in credit  of about £40 (after purchase price in Sept '22 of £50.).

Albermarle

Effician said:

Albermarle said:

Effician said:

Albermarle said:

Effician said:

Albermarle said:

 i was a skeptic of airfryers until just over a year ago but now a total convert on the grounds of taste,speed & running costs.

I am still a sceptic of the latter point. They are cheaper to run than a conventional oven, but the savings in cold hard cash are not that much, and they are not as robust as a conventional oven and will need replacing more often.

I think there has so much publicity/marketing  about airfryers and the cost of living crisis, that it has become a bit of an urban myth that they are big money savers.

This is why i listed it lower down the order of benefits, however the cost of a good unused ( plenty about) but second hand unit like our Cosori 5.5l @ £50 that we bought last year has more than paid for itself

Like i said i was a skeptic but gave it a try & am pleased i did, even if it didn't save any hard cash i would still have one.

We are getting one for Xmas as have been sold on the apparent speed of cooking simple meals for one ( often one member of the family wants something different or at a different time) and to experiment a bit with it.
It cost £90 ( 5.7L with a window ) and I reckon it might save about £50 a year in electricity, depending on how often it gets used.

Just had tea so did a check on energy used as an example,   meal for 3 consisting of 3 jacket pots ( total 700g)  + 1kg of tandoori chicken drumsticks & thighs all cooked from raw to be served with salad ,   prepped & served in 45mins .

At 5pm start cooking potatoes in pressure cooker on induction for 35 min , 5:10 start cooking chicken portions in airfryer ( 25 min programme) , plenty of time to prep salad before pots & chicken done,  5:35 remove chicken & rest for 10 mins while pots go in airfryer for 10 mins at 205c to crisp up skin a bit, serve at 5:45  , total electric used was just under 0.8kWh.

That sounds about right and if instead you used a conventional fan oven for twice time.
Then that would use about 1.5 KWH ( only be using full power for first 10/15 mins) . So the saving would be around 0.75KWh - about 20p , maybe 25p at most.

Not bad then even though you are only guessing,   a 50% saving on electric + quicker cooking time & in my opinion better tasting food with an easy to clean  appliance,   you've sold it to me.

Using it on average once a day @ 0.20p saving x 365 days =£73, looks like i'm in credit  of about £40 (after purchase price in Sept '22 of £50.).

I suspect though that many will be tempted into buying an all singing all dancing one large powerful Ninja one for £250, and only use it twice a week !

Rosa_Damascena

Albermarle said:

Effician said:

Albermarle said:

Effician said:

Albermarle said:

Effician said:

Albermarle said:

 i was a skeptic of airfryers until just over a year ago but now a total convert on the grounds of taste,speed & running costs.

I am still a sceptic of the latter point. They are cheaper to run than a conventional oven, but the savings in cold hard cash are not that much, and they are not as robust as a conventional oven and will need replacing more often.

I think there has so much publicity/marketing  about airfryers and the cost of living crisis, that it has become a bit of an urban myth that they are big money savers.

This is why i listed it lower down the order of benefits, however the cost of a good unused ( plenty about) but second hand unit like our Cosori 5.5l @ £50 that we bought last year has more than paid for itself

Like i said i was a skeptic but gave it a try & am pleased i did, even if it didn't save any hard cash i would still have one.

We are getting one for Xmas as have been sold on the apparent speed of cooking simple meals for one ( often one member of the family wants something different or at a different time) and to experiment a bit with it.
It cost £90 ( 5.7L with a window ) and I reckon it might save about £50 a year in electricity, depending on how often it gets used.

Just had tea so did a check on energy used as an example,   meal for 3 consisting of 3 jacket pots ( total 700g)  + 1kg of tandoori chicken drumsticks & thighs all cooked from raw to be served with salad ,   prepped & served in 45mins .

At 5pm start cooking potatoes in pressure cooker on induction for 35 min , 5:10 start cooking chicken portions in airfryer ( 25 min programme) , plenty of time to prep salad before pots & chicken done,  5:35 remove chicken & rest for 10 mins while pots go in airfryer for 10 mins at 205c to crisp up skin a bit, serve at 5:45  , total electric used was just under 0.8kWh.

That sounds about right and if instead you used a conventional fan oven for twice time.
Then that would use about 1.5 KWH ( only be using full power for first 10/15 mins) . So the saving would be around 0.75KWh - about 20p , maybe 25p at most.

Not bad then even though you are only guessing,   a 50% saving on electric + quicker cooking time & in my opinion better tasting food with an easy to clean  appliance,   you've sold it to me.

Using it on average once a day @ 0.20p saving x 365 days =£73, looks like i'm in credit  of about £40 (after purchase price in Sept '22 of £50.).

I suspect though that many will be tempted into buying an all singing all dancing one large powerful Ninja one for £250, and only use it twice a week !

Spuds and roast veg aside, what veggie food can you make in in air fryer from scratch that can't be done in a microwave?

Mnoee

Rosa_Damascena said:

Albermarle said:

Effician said:

Albermarle said:

Effician said:

Albermarle said:

Effician said:

Albermarle said:

 i was a skeptic of airfryers until just over a year ago but now a total convert on the grounds of taste,speed & running costs.

I am still a sceptic of the latter point. They are cheaper to run than a conventional oven, but the savings in cold hard cash are not that much, and they are not as robust as a conventional oven and will need replacing more often.

I think there has so much publicity/marketing  about airfryers and the cost of living crisis, that it has become a bit of an urban myth that they are big money savers.

This is why i listed it lower down the order of benefits, however the cost of a good unused ( plenty about) but second hand unit like our Cosori 5.5l @ £50 that we bought last year has more than paid for itself

Like i said i was a skeptic but gave it a try & am pleased i did, even if it didn't save any hard cash i would still have one.

We are getting one for Xmas as have been sold on the apparent speed of cooking simple meals for one ( often one member of the family wants something different or at a different time) and to experiment a bit with it.
It cost £90 ( 5.7L with a window ) and I reckon it might save about £50 a year in electricity, depending on how often it gets used.

Just had tea so did a check on energy used as an example,   meal for 3 consisting of 3 jacket pots ( total 700g)  + 1kg of tandoori chicken drumsticks & thighs all cooked from raw to be served with salad ,   prepped & served in 45mins .

At 5pm start cooking potatoes in pressure cooker on induction for 35 min , 5:10 start cooking chicken portions in airfryer ( 25 min programme) , plenty of time to prep salad before pots & chicken done,  5:35 remove chicken & rest for 10 mins while pots go in airfryer for 10 mins at 205c to crisp up skin a bit, serve at 5:45  , total electric used was just under 0.8kWh.

That sounds about right and if instead you used a conventional fan oven for twice time.
Then that would use about 1.5 KWH ( only be using full power for first 10/15 mins) . So the saving would be around 0.75KWh - about 20p , maybe 25p at most.

Not bad then even though you are only guessing,   a 50% saving on electric + quicker cooking time & in my opinion better tasting food with an easy to clean  appliance,   you've sold it to me.

Using it on average once a day @ 0.20p saving x 365 days =£73, looks like i'm in credit  of about £40 (after purchase price in Sept '22 of £50.).

I suspect though that many will be tempted into buying an all singing all dancing one large powerful Ninja one for £250, and only use it twice a week !

Spuds and roast veg aside, what veggie food can you make in in air fryer from scratch that can't be done in a microwave?

There's lots of recipes online for crispy tofu, but I'm happy to pan-fry that. I usually do it salt and chilli style so there's already a wok on the go with some veg in. There's also falafel, but a combi could manage that.