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Getting Internet and Sky to Rear Detached Area of House

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  • Typhoon2000
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    edited 25 September 2022 at 11:36AM
    It will create a different wifi network ( your router joins up all the different wired and wireless networks in your house  into your ‘home network’ - so say you can use wifi in the annex to print a document to printer connected to the wifi or wired Ethernet in your house). However, you can set the same SSID and password for the Annex Wifi as your house if you like so it’s more seamless. 
    I have one wifi network in my out building, one half way up the garden and 3 access points in the house all on the same SSID and password. Handover from one access point to the other is perfect and have seamless wifi everywhere. Can stream a video and walk anywhere in the house to the outbuilding without any dropout.
  • Ben1989
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    edited 25 September 2022 at 12:03PM
    How do you achieve that Typhoon? From my uncontrolled Googling it seems some networks can be ‘grabbed’ onto over some distance so I could be on the house network on very little strength and actually stood next to the access point. How do you get that transition/handover to be achieved so it’s seamless?
  • All the access points are wired back to the router. That’s what a router does, routes all your wired and wireless networks into a 1 seamless local area network in your home. 
  • Typhoon2000
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    edited 25 September 2022 at 12:45PM
    Internet service providers give you an all in one device that is a router, modem, wifi access point all in one device and may have to go somewhere that is not ideal for wifi. So I have put my virgin supplied router in modem only mode, and use separate router and access points for wifi. I use UniFi access points, and have hard wired ethernet points in all rooms.
  • Ben1989
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    All the access points are wired back to the router. That’s what a router does, routes all your wired and wireless networks into a 1 seamless local area network in your home. 
    I’m not saying you’re wrong but I’m getting conflicting info. Would the access points not cause a different network to be created? Thus having to go to network to network around the house? 
  • shiraz99
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    Ben1989 said:
    All the access points are wired back to the router. That’s what a router does, routes all your wired and wireless networks into a 1 seamless local area network in your home. 
    I’m not saying you’re wrong but I’m getting conflicting info. Would the access points not cause a different network to be created? Thus having to go to network to network around the house? 
    Would that matter? Once you've connected it the first time your devices are going to remember and connect automatically anyway.
  • Typhoon2000
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    edited 25 September 2022 at 2:04PM
    Ben1989 said:
    All the access points are wired back to the router. That’s what a router does, routes all your wired and wireless networks into a 1 seamless local area network in your home. 
    I’m not saying you’re wrong but I’m getting conflicting info. Would the access points not cause a different network to be created? Thus having to go to network to network around the house? 
    We’ll kind of. Each access points will be a separate network, the same way that each Ethernet port in the back of your router is a different network. The job of the router is to join all these networks together into 1 local area network, and connect it to another network called the internet if you have an internet connection. So any device you are using thinks it is all just one big network. Set all the SSID and passwords the same and your wifi device won’t know it is moving from one network to another, just that the signal over here is better than over there, so goes for the stronger signal. This is how wifi in large buildings/hotels/ airports work. Kind of like how a mobile phone works when making a call on a train as it move across country and your phone switches between cell towers seamlessly.
  • So even though I have 3 access points in the house, when I look at the list of wifi networks available on my phone, it only shows one as all the SSIDs are the same.
  • It is possible to connect 2 routers together. The router connected to your phone line in the main house I will call A. The router in the annex I will call B.

    Router A will already be setup to give connected devices an IP address. Router B will need this feature turning off. This is done by disabling DHCP on B and giving it a unique static IP address. 
    For instance, A probably will be 192.168.1.254 so B could be 192.168.1.253.

    If DHCP is enabled on B also, that router will try to issue addresses that will conflict with those that A is giving out. 





  • littleboo
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    Ben1989 said:
    All the access points are wired back to the router. That’s what a router does, routes all your wired and wireless networks into a 1 seamless local area network in your home. 
    I’m not saying you’re wrong but I’m getting conflicting info. Would the access points not cause a different network to be created? Thus having to go to network to network around the house? 
    The SSID is the network name that we see as users, and tell a client to connect to. An AP also has a BSSID, which is usually its MAC radio address. If you have 3 AP's with the same SSID, there will be 1 SSID and 3 BSSID's. The PC/phone/tablet has a WiFi client understands that there are 3 physical AP's forming the same wireless network and takes care of switching between them.
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