Getting Internet and Sky to Rear Detached Area of House

Ben1989

Hi all,

House which has a detached building in the garden which is planned to have lodgers in is about to finished. Plumbing and electrics all done for it and it's basically ready for inhabitants.

Now it's time to install TV, set up internet etc but hit a stumbling block. The router for the main house is at the front of the property and reaches nowhere near the rear annex. To be honest, even if the router was moved I still think there would not be enough coverage. The internet is just too confusing with solutions (i.e. extenders, repeaters, boosters, nest etc). I'm not quite sure what they mean.

In addition, Sky is intended to be in the annex. The main house has Sky but I think there is limitation in piggy backing onto it using Multiscreen (Multiroom) as I believe you cannot record or anything on it. Would having a main box solve this or is having two main boxes confuse things?

Any help would be appreciated in getting it all connected.

Niv

Is the annex and the main house on the same electrics? If so, just install a couple of home plugs similar to the below:

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Niv

Failing that you could install a mesh network like this:

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Ben1989

Yes same electrics.

Would a router need purchasing to use this setup? Does it have to be on the same electrical circuit as the annex is on its own circuit 

FreeBear

Ben1989 said: House which has a detached building in the garden which is planned to have lodgers in is about to finished. Plumbing and electrics all done for it and it's basically ready for inhabitants.

Unless this building is for immediate family members, any occupant would be a tenant - If you go down the route of calling them lodgers when in fact they are tenants, you could find yourself falling foul of a whole bunch of legislation. A couple of threads in recent months on the housing board from people renting outbuildings and asking if they are lodgers or tenants (definitely the latter).

As for broadband - I'd recommend running a CAT5/6 cable out there and have a router/switch (with or without WiFi) to provide coverage within the building.

Niv

If its on the same consumer unit it should work by buying a set of home plugs. You plug one near the router and plug it in via an ethernet cable. then you plug the other one wherever you want internet access. They are very easy to set up.

You can get homeplugs that have both wifi and a Ethernet cable port.

Apodemus

I've used the TP-Link devices to extend internet and they are good - up to a point.  I wouldn't use one, though, where the users  don't have easy access to both ends - you probably don't want the tenants to be nipping in to your house to reset the connection!  The units also have a capacitor that tends to blow, this is easily replaced, with a bit of soldering, but it seems to be a design flaw (or built-in obsolescence).

I'd definitely opt for running a Cat5/6 cable out and simply plugging it in to the back of your router (also change the passwords on the router so that you can ensure the correct security settings for that line).

Ben1989

FreeBear said:

Ben1989 said: House which has a detached building in the garden which is planned to have lodgers in is about to finished. Plumbing and electrics all done for it and it's basically ready for inhabitants.

Unless this building is for immediate family members, any occupant would be a tenant - If you go down the route of calling them lodgers when in fact they are tenants, you could find yourself falling foul of a whole bunch of legislation. A couple of threads in recent months on the housing board from people renting outbuildings and asking if they are lodgers or tenants (definitely the latter).

As for broadband - I'd recommend running a CAT5/6 cable out there and have a router/switch (with or without WiFi) to provide coverage within the building.

Yes it's for an immediate family member.

Can you explain your broadband idea a bit more sorry. Are you saying to run an ethernet cable from the house router all the way to the annex? It's quite a distance and I'd say it would be quite difficult.

Apodemus

Ben1989 said:

FreeBear said:

Ben1989 said: House which has a detached building in the garden which is planned to have lodgers in is about to finished. Plumbing and electrics all done for it and it's basically ready for inhabitants.

Unless this building is for immediate family members, any occupant would be a tenant - If you go down the route of calling them lodgers when in fact they are tenants, you could find yourself falling foul of a whole bunch of legislation. A couple of threads in recent months on the housing board from people renting outbuildings and asking if they are lodgers or tenants (definitely the latter).

As for broadband - I'd recommend running a CAT5/6 cable out there and have a router/switch (with or without WiFi) to provide coverage within the building.

Yes it's for an immediate family member.

Can you explain your broadband idea a bit more sorry. Are you saying to run an ethernet cable from the house router all the way to the annex? It's quite a distance and I'd say it would be quite difficult.

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shiraz99

Ben1989 said:

Hi all,

House which has a detached building in the garden which is planned to have lodgers in is about to finished. Plumbing and electrics all done for it and it's basically ready for inhabitants.

Now it's time to install TV, set up internet etc but hit a stumbling block. The router for the main house is at the front of the property and reaches nowhere near the rear annex. To be honest, even if the router was moved I still think there would not be enough coverage. The internet is just too confusing with solutions (i.e. extenders, repeaters, boosters, nest etc). I'm not quite sure what they mean.

In addition, Sky is intended to be in the annex. The main house has Sky but I think there is limitation in piggy backing onto it using Multiscreen (Multiroom) as I believe you cannot record or anything on it. Would having a main box solve this or is having two main boxes confuse things?

Any help would be appreciated in getting it all connected.

Do you have Sky Q?

If not, perhaps it's time to move to Sky Q that way you can have multiscreen with a Sky Q mini box which allows you to record, albeit with the recordings stored on the main box. Multiroom is the old service which just allowed you to setup another Sky box in another room and also allowing you to record.

FreeBear

Ben1989 said:

FreeBear said:

Ben1989 said: House which has a detached building in the garden which is planned to have lodgers in is about to finished. Plumbing and electrics all done for it and it's basically ready for inhabitants.

Unless this building is for immediate family members, any occupant would be a tenant - If you go down the route of calling them lodgers when in fact they are tenants, you could find yourself falling foul of a whole bunch of legislation. A couple of threads in recent months on the housing board from people renting outbuildings and asking if they are lodgers or tenants (definitely the latter).

As for broadband - I'd recommend running a CAT5/6 cable out there and have a router/switch (with or without WiFi) to provide coverage within the building.

Yes it's for an immediate family member.

Can you explain your broadband idea a bit more sorry. Are you saying to run an ethernet cable from the house router all the way to the annex? It's quite a distance and I'd say it would be quite difficult.

The maximum recommended distance for CAT5/6 cable is 100m, although there are ways to extend this.. But yes, I would run an ethernet cable from the house router out to the annex - It shouldn't be any harder than running power out there. Put the cable in conduit so that it can be easily replaced if it ever gets damaged. You can get exterior grade cable, and even steel amoured, but it isn't really necessary for most domestic installations.