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Getting Internet and Sky to Rear Detached Area of House

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  • Ben1989 said:
    So, bought a 50m Cat 6 cable that I'm going to put down before the drive. 

    What happens at the other end of this? Can I put a router to have wifi in the building? Is this how it works? Router > wire > router?
    We have a similar set up. Our electrician ran a cat6 cable down the outside of the house, then under the patios, and into the garage. We then plugged in TP-Link TL-WA1201 Access Point... https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B084BGKJZT?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share 
    then we have WiFi full strength in the garage. the instructions were clear and it set up easily 

    we have power line adapters in the house, but our garage had a separate electric circuit in some way so it didn’t work 
  • Ben1989
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    Thanks everyone. 

    So we got Sky working by directly plugging in the Ethernet cable into the Sky Q minibox. However, there’s no WiFi obviously with this setup. Just merely wanted a bit of TV while the annex is getting its final touches.

    Is it possible to get a WAP with an Ethernet output for the sky box and TV and still allow wireless connectivity? Is it best to use a router for this or a way to split the Ethernet cable to the WAP and sky? 

    I reiterate I’m not savvy with different types of solutions where internet is concerned haha
  • Ben1989
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    So I bought a TP link router that can be used as a range extender (curry’s had no WAP in stock).

    So, I plugged the Ethernet cable into the router and set it up as a range extender with the exact same details as the master router. 

    Seemed to work okay but big issue with Sky. I plugged the Sky into the router with an Ethernet cable and just huge lag to the point of freezing. Tried to link wirelessly and just timed out and wouldn’t connect. 

    Am I missing something?
  • Do they have to have Sky?  Why not a box like the Humax that connect directly to the spare outlets on the Sky dish, twin cable from the dish to the box. Free TV on normal channels, connect to your internet with the TP link and then they can use the internet for more channels.
  • Ben1989
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    Yes it’s for my grandma who is just totally fluent with Sky and loves sky movies. 

    I’ve just had (I think) a realisation. I think when using the router in range extender mode it picked up the WIRELESS signal (which is very poor) and amplified it and made the Ethernet cable useless. Can somebody clarify this?

    i think I need to use access point mode which would create a separate network. Is there a trick to seamlessly switching between the two?
  • Typhoon2000
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    edited 24 September 2022 at 7:53PM
    You don’t want a router or range extender in the annex. You want a switch, say like this 
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/NETGEAR-Gigabit-Ethernet-Unmanaged-GS105UK/dp/B0000E5SEQ
    This will give wired access to a number of devices in the annex, including a Sky Q min box. It basically splits the incoming network cable into a number of different ports without any routing.
    If you want wifi in annex as well they you need an access point say like any of these
    https://www.broadbandbuyer.com/store/wifi-access-points/?t=451
    The access point plugs into the network switch.
    You can give the wifi network in the annex the same SSID ( network name) and password as the main house, or a different one.
  • FreeBear
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    Typhoon2000 said: You don’t want a router or range extender in the annex. You want a switch, say like this 
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/NETGEAR-Gigabit-Ethernet-Unmanaged-GS105UK/dp/B0000E5SEQ
    Depending on how the cable from the house is wired up in the back of the wall box, you may need a cross over cable to plug the switch in to.

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  • markin
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    Yes range extender is probably wifi to wifi, You wan't access point mode which would Not create a separate network.

    To create a separate network you would leave it in router mode after configuring the ip range that you log in with and that is used for DHCP. You can't have 2 routers serving DHCP on the same address range. Not a problem if they are already different. 192.168.0.xxx  192.168.1.xxx  192.168.2.xxx
  • markin
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    You don’t want a router or range extender in the annex. You want a switch, say like this 
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/NETGEAR-Gigabit-Ethernet-Unmanaged-GS105UK/dp/B0000E5SEQ
    This will give wired access to a number of devices in the annex, including a Sky Q min box. It basically splits the incoming network cable into a number of different ports without any routing.
    If you want wifi in annex as well they you need an access point say like any of these
    https://www.broadbandbuyer.com/store/wifi-access-points/?t=451
    The access point plugs into the network switch.
    You can give the wifi network in the annex the same SSID ( network name) and password as the main house, or a different one.

    A router set up as an access point a is just a switch with built in wifi, Less clutter and probably cheaper.
  • Everything online says an Access Point will create a different network. Am I missing something?
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