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UKPC / DCB Legal - Part 2 - I WON IN COURT

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  • Coupon-mad
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    But I'm not seeing either the Beavis sign nor the Excel v Wilkinson transcript given an Exhibit number; they are not there appended at the end and no Exhibit number is mentioned in the paragraphs talking about them.

    Really all your photos should be taken out of the body of the WS and put at the end as 'exhibit 1, 2, 3,  etc. and then in the paragraphs you just say 'see Exhibit 3' or whatever.  Also you have the same photo twice.  Should just be one exhibit at the end with all the rest of your photos & exhibits, Beavis case sign, BPA CoP and Excel v Wilkinson.
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  • IloveElephants
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    edited 22 November 2022 at 12:27AM
    But I'm not seeing either the Beavis sign nor the Excel v Wilkinson transcript given an Exhibit number; they are not there appended at the end and no Exhibit number is mentioned in the paragraphs talking about them.

    Really all your photos should be taken out of the body of the WS and put at the end as 'exhibit 1, 2, 3,  etc. and then in the paragraphs you just say 'see Exhibit 3' or whatever.  Also you have the same photo twice.  Should just be one exhibit at the end with all the rest of your photos & exhibits, Beavis case sign, BPA CoP and Excel v Wilkinson.
    Hi Coupon-mad, sorry for the late reply, thanks for the feedback, I have made the changes you suggested about the photos at the end of the document and reference to each one. If you could kindly take a look, once that is fine I will create my contents page and keep it ready for when I receive my hearing date. Thank you so much,

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_cU8lqf4dNBrMiab-lxZCYuRFJNJ-P1C/edit
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 22 November 2022 at 2:36PM
    Far easier on the eye with the photos at the end!

    Where and what is exhibit 8 as it doesn't appear at the bottom, is it Excel v Wilkinson?
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  • 1505grandad
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    Some observations:-

    Para 11  -  should the Exhibit be 5 (not 4)?

    Is there an "Exhibit 8"?

    Para 30  -  you state  -   " In the present case, the Claimant has fallen foul of those tests.
    (Exhibit 06 ParkingEye v Beavis)"

    Exhibit 6 is the yellow and black PE sign  

    Para 36  -  should you be exhibiting the "ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis [2015] UKSC 67" paras mentioned?

    You have an "Exhibit 9" showing BPA CoP grace periods  -  is this relevant (there is no reference to it in the WS).

  • Far easier on the eye with the photos at the end!

    Where and what is exhibit 8 as it doesn't appear at the bottom, is it Excel v Wilkinson?
    Hi Coupon-mad, thanks for the feedback,, they is no exhibit 8, it was an error. Excel v Wilkinson does not have an exhibit, it is just quotes. I made no reference to a picture exhibit unless I need to put one in? Thank you
  • Some observations:-

    Para 11  -  should the Exhibit be 5 (not 4)?

    Is there an "Exhibit 8"?

    Para 30  -  you state  -   " In the present case, the Claimant has fallen foul of those tests.
    (Exhibit 06 ParkingEye v Beavis)"

    Exhibit 6 is the yellow and black PE sign  

    Para 36  -  should you be exhibiting the "ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis [2015] UKSC 67" paras mentioned?

    You have an "Exhibit 9" showing BPA CoP grace periods  -  is this relevant (there is no reference to it in the WS).

    Hi Granddad, thanks for your input.

    Paragraph 11 is changed to 5 - thanks for pointing it out

    No they is no exhibit 8 - it was an error 

    1. The Supreme Court held that the intention cannot be to punish a motorist - nor to present them with concealed pitfalls, traps, hidden terms or unfair/unexpected obligations - and nor can a firm claim an unconscionable sum. In the present case, the Claimant has fallen foul of those tests.

    (Exhibit 06 ParkingEye v Beavis) - CLARIFY WHICH EXHIBIT GOES HERE

    For paragraph 30 - I am unsure which exhibit goes here or shall I just remove the exhibit reference? 



    As for Para 36 I have added (see exhibit 06)

    As for Exhibit 09 it was an error, 9 doesn't exist. Shall I delete the image of the 
    British Parking Association (BPA) Exhibit 07 as I make no reference to it in the WS? Or should I keep it in and make reference to it to strengthen my case?


    Thank you so much.

  • Jenni_D
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    edited 23 November 2022 at 9:05AM
    If you're quoting from another court judgment then (because not all court judgments result in transcripts) you must include the transcript in your evidence pack to provide provenance for your quotes.

    PE v Beavis doesn't really need an exhibit as it was a Supreme Court ruling? (Let others confirm on this).
    Jenni x
  • Coupon-mad
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    Excel v Wilkinson is always an exhibit!
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  • Hi Jenny, thanks for your reply "
    PE v Beavis doesn't really need an exhibit as it was a Supreme Court ruling? (Let others confirm on this)." 

    Is this a question to me or for the other members? Thanks
  • Excel v Wilkinson is always an exhibit!
    Coupon-mad, where do I find an exhibit for Excel v Wilkinson so I can add it in. Is it an image? Thank you
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