DRS Bailiffs SCAM: Baillif Debt collection letter

Coupon-mad

It’s also just one random letter, i've contacted a lawyer because I freaked out. 

LOL - what did they say?  They sussed it's a scam, yes?!  Really obvious scam and all over t'internet.

Hope you didn't pay for any advice?

You haven't mentioned reporting it to Action Fraud and telling them that victims are highlighting a common data issue likely to be coming from Inshur or Deliveroo Insurance online quotes, or similar food delivery or courier car insurance websites.  Someone is harvesting data from there, not from the DVLA.

Tell Action Fraud all of this.  Give them a URL link to this thread and all the others about this scam.

GrannyKate

This is a very similar email address to a genuine firm hcegroup but with an extra a.  The genuine company have scam advice on their website and also give the 3 genuine actual telephone numbers which might be on a letter from them.

alix777

Hi guys, I’ve asked admin to delete my last post as I forgot to redact info. 

Things developed further after that nasty letter from a supposed HCO legal company acting on behalf of Parkmaven.

Someone came to my house and posted a marathon recovery final notice with handwritten agents name and number, quite sophisticated and scary stuff, see for yourselves 

Then I wasn’t sure if it was a scam because the letter looks somewhat legit… 

So then I found another really good solicitor who did a whole investigation into it and send me a whole file with all the information on the organised crime fraudulent activities (thank God for this man, he literally relieved me of my worries)…. he found some good stuff out as well as some of the things you guys already discussed here… 

I you are unsure, a big red flag that points to a scam is if there is no actual CCJ against you at this stage. You can check online on the trustonline.org website 

the end advice was:

hand the attached evidence to the police and report an offence online with your local police force website. The crime is under section 63 of the Tribunals Courts and Enforcement Act 2007 and section 2 of the Fraud Act 2006. If a company is involved in organised crime, then everyone involved commits an offence under section 993 of the Companies Act 2006.

The police have a propensity to consider bailiff crime to be a civil matter. If the police fob you off with excuses, then revert to me with the name of the police officer you spoke to. I will ask the Parliamentary Ombudsman to intervene and bring an action under section 26 of the Criminal Justice and Courts Act 2015.

alix777

Umkomaas said:

It says in on behalf of Parkmaven, so I’ve contacted them. 

What have they said?

No reply, obv don’t care scammers are using their name 

Coupon-mad

alix777 said:

Hi guys, I’ve asked admin to delete my last post as I forgot to redact info. 

Things developed further after that nasty letter from a supposed HCO legal company acting on behalf of Parkmaven.

Someone came to my house and posted a marathon recovery final notice with handwritten agents name and number, quite sophisticated and scary stuff, see for yourselves 

Then I wasn’t sure if it was a scam because the letter looks somewhat legit… 

So then I found another really good solicitor who did a whole investigation into it and send me a whole file with all the information on the organised crime fraudulent activities (thank God for this man, he literally relieved me of my worries)…. he found some good stuff out as well as some of the things you guys already discussed here… 

I you are unsure, a big red flag that points to a scam is if there is no actual CCJ against you at this stage. You can check online on the trustonline.org website 

the end advice was:

hand the attached evidence to the police and report an offence online with your local police force website. The crime is under section 63 of the Tribunals Courts and Enforcement Act 2007 and section 2 of the Fraud Act 2006. If a company is involved in organised crime, then everyone involved commits an offence under section 993 of the Companies Act 2006.

The police have a propensity to consider bailiff crime to be a civil matter. If the police fob you off with excuses, then revert to me with the name of the police officer you spoke to. I will ask the Parliamentary Ombudsman to intervene and bring an action under section 26 of the Criminal Justice and Courts Act 2015.

That's good work - if he has got it right.  Hmmm.

Marston Recovery - with that logo and that website and that phone number - are a real bailiff:

https://www.marstonholdings.co.uk/marstonrecovery/

Are you SURE this is the same scam?

I note this is your first post. 

The only weird bit to me, is -
Who you owe money to (our client):
'HIGH COURT'

@Grizebeck what do you think? That Marston Notice... Bailiff or cake?

alix777

Coupon-mad said:

That's good work - if he has got it right.  Hmmm.

Marston Recovery - with that logo and that website and that phone number - are a real bailiff:

Are you SURE this is the same scam?

I note this is your first post. 

The only weird bit to me, is -
Who you owe money to (our client):
'HIGH COURT'

@Grizebeck what do you think? That Marston Notice... Bailiff or cake?

I posted before (now deleted) a “removal notice” letter from a company calling themselves HCO Legal, website hceagroup.legal, email: contact@ hceagroup.legal and the same P.o. box as mentioned by someone else above. 

Regarding the letter: 

“The documents given by the "bailiff" do not give any provenance of the original debt being enforced, and that is a statutory requirement. The author of the document may commit an offence under the Fraud Act…

The 'marston recovery' document is a generic document used by Marston…. The police can show the document to management there to identify the source of the crime.

'Andy' mobile number always goes to voicemail… unregistered SIM… Hiding or obscuring the identity of the enforcement agent is inconsistent with paragraph 26 of Schedule 12 of the Trib…”

I will not disclose the full conclusion here but there is very compelling evidence on it so I have no doubt it’s a very sophisticated scam, and would not surprise me many have fallen for it like I almost did, sadly, hostile world. 

Coupon-mad

Why not ring Marston and ask them if that ref is real or 'cake'?  It just looks different from the scam we are talking about.

I'm sure Marston would want to know.

Grizebeck

Hard to tell. Give me the phone number....

1505grandad

"Someone came to my house and ....."

No cctv i presume?

alix777

Now almost 2 weeks have passed and I can confirm it’s definitely a scam. 

I’ve set up cctv and Andy never returned. 

The reference numbers don’t work on their page. None of reference numbers given in both letters work.

I went to the police station and they fobbed me off like the solicitor predicted. 

Reported to action fraud.