Didnt pay to drop someone off at Gatwick airport: Do I have a defence?

sheramber

Bank Holiday on Monday and postal strike on 30 August.

bamme89

KeithP said:

bamme89 said:

ah.. I have found 

"The CCBC can be contacted by sending an email to ccbc@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk "

I will try this...

I don't know where you found that address but it is out of date.

All the CCBC's email addresses are at @justice.gov.uk and have been for several years.

Strange I got it from the moneyclaims website

bamme89

sheramber said:

Bank Holiday on Monday and postal strike on 30 August.

Yeah so annoying that’s my deadline date! I posted it Saturday, was told the only way it’d get delivered by 30 aug my deadline was special delivery so I got that, it’s signed for but I at least have proof of postage.

will try emailing them again Tuesday 

KeithP

bamme89 said:

KeithP said:

bamme89 said:

ah.. I have found 

"The CCBC can be contacted by sending an email to ccbc@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk "

I will try this...

I don't know where you found that address but it is out of date.

All the CCBC's email addresses are at @justice.gov.uk and have been for several years.

Strange I got it from the moneyclaims website

As you say... strange.

I've looked and I can't see it there. But as you haven't given a link I guess I haven't looked where you have seen it.


But all that aside, why on earth are you fiddling about with posting your Defence?
The guidance on the Parking Board, - and indeed in your very own thread on the Parking Board - explains exactly how to file a Defence, and it doesn't rely upon Royal Mail's postal services.

And I'll say it again as it looks like you may have missed my earlier post...

KeithP said:

Is this related to your existing NCP thread on the Parking board?
If so, it's probably best to keep all discussion about that one incident in one thread - or at least on the same board. 

bamme89

KeithP said:

bamme89 said:

KeithP said:

bamme89 said:

ah.. I have found 

"The CCBC can be contacted by sending an email to ccbc@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk "

I will try this...

I don't know where you found that address but it is out of date.

All the CCBC's email addresses are at @justice.gov.uk and have been for several years.

Strange I got it from the moneyclaims website

As you say... strange.

I've looked and I can't see it there. But as you haven't given a link I guess I haven't looked where you have seen it.


But all that aside, why on earth are you fiddling about with posting your Defence?
The guidance on the Parking Board, - and indeed in your very own thread on the Parking Board - explains exactly how to file a Defence, and it doesn't rely upon Royal Mail's postal services.

And I'll say it again as it looks like you may have missed my earlier post...

KeithP said:

Is this related to your existing NCP thread on the Parking board?
If so, it's probably best to keep all discussion about that one incident in one thread - or at least on the same board. 

Ah sorry here https://www.moneyclaimsuk.co.uk/ccbc.aspx

I followed the directions to email it and copy in the solicitor, but I also noted to ensure I got acknowledgement which I have not got by email

KeithP

bamme89 said:

KeithP said:

bamme89 said:

KeithP said:

bamme89 said:

ah.. I have found 

"The CCBC can be contacted by sending an email to ccbc@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk "

I will try this...

I don't know where you found that address but it is out of date.

All the CCBC's email addresses are at @justice.gov.uk and have been for several years.

Strange I got it from the moneyclaims website

As you say... strange.

I've looked and I can't see it there. But as you haven't given a link I guess I haven't looked where you have seen it.


But all that aside, why on earth are you fiddling about with posting your Defence?
The guidance on the Parking Board, - and indeed in your very own thread on the Parking Board - explains exactly how to file a Defence, and it doesn't rely upon Royal Mail's postal services.

And I'll say it again as it looks like you may have missed my earlier post...

KeithP said:

Is this related to your existing NCP thread on the Parking board?
If so, it's probably best to keep all discussion about that one incident in one thread - or at least on the same board. 

Ah sorry here https://www.moneyclaimsuk.co.uk/ccbc.aspx

That website you have shown us clearly is nothing to do with HM Courts Service.
It says at the bottom of that page...

...and they appear to have not updated it for several years.

How did you find that? What is missing from the guidance you have already been pointed towards?

Is this related to your existing NCP thread on the Parking board?

KeithP

@bamme89 has decided to progress this issue elsewhere.

Coupon-mad

I think the two threads need merging on the parking board, as over there, we deal with parking firm claims and winning court defences daily.  

Coupon-mad

bamme89 said:

Ah okay, to avoid messing up the rest of your layout I can put it like this?

3. Neither the Defendant or the driver of the vehicle noticed any clear signage around the stopping point. There was no parking meter or payment facility, or anything suggesting payment was required. Therefore no party in the vehicle was aware there was a charge. Given the road layout, nor would there have been a possibility of turning the vehicle around regardless - in essence it would have been impossible to read any terms and decide against them. This makes it (arguably) the imposition of a contract term unfairly. Furthermore, as a matter of fact and law, the Claimant (as a longstanding BPA Parking operator) will be well aware that they cannot use the POFA provisions because this is not 'relevant land'.  If the Airport wanted to hold owners or keepers liable under Airport Byelaws, that would be within the landowner's gift and another matter entirely, but not only is that not pleaded, it is also not legally possible because the Claimant is not the Airport owner and their 'parking charge' was not and never attempted to be a penalty.  It was created for their own profit (as opposed to a byelaws penalty that goes to the public purse) and the Claimant has relied on contract law allegations of breach against a driver only. The Defendant was not that driver and cannot be presumed to have been, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation of the law of agency.

That is pretty much there but just needs splitting from 'Furthermore' into para 4, then renumbering the template below.  

EDIT: Your first post told us who was driving.  If you know it was you, no lying about it in a court submission.  The whole of the above will need re-writing, if you were driving, as you MUST tell the truth.

Fruitcake

KeithP said:

bamme89 said:

KeithP said:

bamme89 said:

KeithP said:

bamme89 said:

ah.. I have found 

"The CCBC can be contacted by sending an email to ccbc@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk "

I will try this...

I don't know where you found that address but it is out of date.

All the CCBC's email addresses are at @justice.gov.uk and have been for several years.

Strange I got it from the moneyclaims website

As you say... strange.

I've looked and I can't see it there. But as you haven't given a link I guess I haven't looked where you have seen it.


But all that aside, why on earth are you fiddling about with posting your Defence?
The guidance on the Parking Board, - and indeed in your very own thread on the Parking Board - explains exactly how to file a Defence, and it doesn't rely upon Royal Mail's postal services.

And I'll say it again as it looks like you may have missed my earlier post...

KeithP said:

Is this related to your existing NCP thread on the Parking board?
If so, it's probably best to keep all discussion about that one incident in one thread - or at least on the same board. 

Ah sorry here https://www.moneyclaimsuk.co.uk/ccbc.aspx

That website you have shown us clearly is nothing to do with HM Courts Service.
It says at the bottom of that page...

...and they appear to have not updated it for several years.

How did you find that? What is missing from the guidance you have already been pointed towards?

Is this related to your existing NCP thread on the Parking board?

A private limited company so professional that they messed up registering their new address with Companies House and had to re-register it again with the correct address the same day.