EV Discussion thread

silverwhistle

Netexporter said:

Ah, good call. I now remember being confused by the Welsh green stripe on a van. As long as the ULEZ cameras can tell the difference all will be well.

The green stripe confers no actual benefit and I've seen some new EVs without it: it's not obligatory. Any enforcement is done via the registration, so if there actually is a green stripe on a non-EV it just shows that the person who put it on there was a prat. Not necessarily the current driver remember.

JKenH

Volkswagen has now overtaken Tesla as the top selling EV brand in the UK this year.

Last years figures to 2nd June.

Magnitio

JKenH said:

Volkswagen has now overtaken Tesla as the top selling EV brand in the UK this year.

Last years figures to 2nd June.

The total shown for ID3, ID4 and ID7 is 8,950. The total for VW is 14,012. There are only two other models that I am aware of: ID5 and ID Buzz. If those are sold in equal amounts that is 2,531 each, but they don't appear on the table. The same issue with Skoda: they sell the Enyaq and Elroq, but the total Skoda sales less Enyaq means the Elroq would have sold 3,205 cars. It's not on the list. Can we trust any of these numbers?

JKenH

Magnitio said:

JKenH said:

Volkswagen has now overtaken Tesla as the top selling EV brand in the UK this year.

Last years figures to 2nd June.

The total shown for ID3, ID4 and ID7 is 8,950. The total for VW is 14,012. There are only two other models that I am aware of: ID5 and ID Buzz. If those are sold in equal amounts that is 2,531 each, but they don't appear on the table. The same issue with Skoda: they sell the Enyaq and Elroq, but the total Skoda sales less Enyaq means the Elroq would have sold 3,205 cars. It's not on the list. Can we trust any of these numbers?

As an indication of registrations, yes. As an indication of sales, probably not.

Magnitio

JKenH said:

Volkswagen has now overtaken Tesla as the top selling EV brand in the UK this year.

You could also have said "Tesla now has the top two selling EV's in the UK." 

MeteredOut

Magnitio said:

JKenH said:

Volkswagen has now overtaken Tesla as the top selling EV brand in the UK this year.

You could also have said "Tesla now has the top two selling EV's in the UK." 

Why, did it not have previously?

JKenH

BYD has slashed its EV prices in China by as much as 34%. The BYD Seagull, which saw a price cut of around 20%, in China is now only a quarter of the price of a Tesla Model 3. The Seagull list price in China converts to just £5,741 but if it comes here (as expected) it will be more though it will still undercut the Dacia Spring. 

BYD Sparks Price War In China, Slashes New Car Prices By Up To 34%

https://cleantechnica.com/2025/05/27/byd-sparks-price-war-in-china-slashes-new-car-prices-by-up-to-34-percent/

There is currently significant oversupply in the EV market in China leading to pre-registering of vehicles and there is a prospect of some manufacturers being driven out of business. 

https://carnewschina.com/2025/06/01/exposing-chinas-zero-kilometre-used-cars-registered-but-never-driven/

Grumpy_chap

JKenH said:

BYD has slashed its EV prices 

I was rather surprised by a car review in our local paper that BYD have launched a hybrid model, but it does seem to be correct:
https://www.byd.com/uk/hybrid-cars/seal-u-dm-i

I was under the impression that BYD were an EV-only car company.  Adding a hybrid to the range late in the day seems to be a backward step.

michaels

Grumpy_chap said:

JKenH said:

BYD has slashed its EV prices 

I was rather surprised by a car review in our local paper that BYD have launched a hybrid model, but it does seem to be correct:
https://www.byd.com/uk/hybrid-cars/seal-u-dm-i

I was under the impression that BYD were an EV-only car company.  Adding a hybrid to the range late in the day seems to be a backward step.

The have always been hybrid as well as ev in China

Martyn1981

Grumpy_chap said:

JKenH said:

BYD has slashed its EV prices 

I was rather surprised by a car review in our local paper that BYD have launched a hybrid model, but it does seem to be correct:
https://www.byd.com/uk/hybrid-cars/seal-u-dm-i

I was under the impression that BYD were an EV-only car company.  Adding a hybrid to the range late in the day seems to be a backward step.

A few years back they dropped their ICE / HEV models and changed to plu-in only. A very rough rule, would be 50:50 PHEV to BEV.

Their PHEV sales probably help them to stay profitable, compare to the many BEV only Chinese cars. Though the recent investigation by China into these companies selling new cars as SH zero mileage, to boost new sales numbers, does seem to have scared BYD a little bit, and they need to clear stock.

Growing pains I suppose as the transition takes place. Many companies will fold or amalgamate soon.