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  • Solarchaser
    Solarchaser Posts: 1,663 Forumite
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    QrizB said:
    I'm sorry to see this schism but I can see how it could help to avoid personal attacks.
    I'll be reading both threads and contributing where I can.
    paul991 said:
    I have  just retired part of  my  job was to look after 10 free chargers quite  often we would get reports of chargers not  working only to get on site and  find a car in the spot on charge working ,the  main problems we had were incorrect inserting and removal of plugs,we found  a few higher end cars would trip out the  supply if the settings were not correct.
    PEBCAK rears its ugly head once again!
    on another point i wonder how much energy the cameras and other electronics take on higher end vehicles
    I would guess not an awful lot; similar to a mid-range PC, that might draw 200 watts?

    I think you may be disappointed.
    I've had the Tesla lose 10% over a weekend., and at one point 5% over only a couple of hours, though tesla techs suggested that may have been the computer learning the battery...
    Who knows with tesla tbh

    Most of the time its less than 1 percent though
    West central Scotland
    4kw sse since 2014 and 6.6kw wsw / ene split since 2019
    24kwh leaf, 75Kwh Tesla and Lux 3600 with 60Kwh storage
  • JKenH
    JKenH Posts: 4,789 Forumite
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    QrizB said:
    I'm sorry to see this schism but I can see how it could help to avoid personal attacks.
    I'll be reading both threads and contributing where I can.
    paul991 said:
    I have  just retired part of  my  job was to look after 10 free chargers quite  often we would get reports of chargers not  working only to get on site and  find a car in the spot on charge working ,the  main problems we had were incorrect inserting and removal of plugs,we found  a few higher end cars would trip out the  supply if the settings were not correct.
    PEBCAK rears its ugly head once again!
    on another point i wonder how much energy the cameras and other electronics take on higher end vehicles
    I would guess not an awful lot; similar to a mid-range PC, that might draw 200 watts?

    I think you may be disappointed.
    I've had the Tesla lose 10% over a weekend., and at one point 5% over only a couple of hours, though tesla techs suggested that may have been the computer learning the battery...
    Who knows with tesla tbh

    Most of the time its less than 1 percent though
    Per hour or per weekend? 
    Northern Lincolnshire. 7.8 kWp system, (4.2 kw west facing panels , 3.6 kw east facing), Solis inverters, Solar IBoost water heater, Mitsubishi SRK35ZS-S and SRK20ZS-S Wall Mounted Inverter Heat Pumps, ex Nissan Leaf owner)
  • 1961Nick
    1961Nick Posts: 2,064 Forumite
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    ed110220 said:
    PEBCAK - problem exists between chair and keyboard
    That used to be a PICNIC
    4kWp (black/black) - Sofar Inverter - SSE(141°) - 30° pitch - North Lincs
    Installed June 2013 - PVGIS = 3400
    Sofar ME3000SP Inverter & 5 x Pylontech US2000B Plus & 3 x US2000C Batteries - 19.2kWh
  • 1961Nick
    1961Nick Posts: 2,064 Forumite
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    I changed my breakdown cover to the AA specifically because the will roadside charge a dead EV. 

    Insurance is with LV & they also cover EVs with dead batteries - not my reason for choosing them but nice to know.
    4kWp (black/black) - Sofar Inverter - SSE(141°) - 30° pitch - North Lincs
    Installed June 2013 - PVGIS = 3400
    Sofar ME3000SP Inverter & 5 x Pylontech US2000B Plus & 3 x US2000C Batteries - 19.2kWh
  • Solarchaser
    Solarchaser Posts: 1,663 Forumite
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    JKenH said:
    QrizB said:
    I'm sorry to see this schism but I can see how it could help to avoid personal attacks.
    I'll be reading both threads and contributing where I can.
    paul991 said:
    I have  just retired part of  my  job was to look after 10 free chargers quite  often we would get reports of chargers not  working only to get on site and  find a car in the spot on charge working ,the  main problems we had were incorrect inserting and removal of plugs,we found  a few higher end cars would trip out the  supply if the settings were not correct.
    PEBCAK rears its ugly head once again!
    on another point i wonder how much energy the cameras and other electronics take on higher end vehicles
    I would guess not an awful lot; similar to a mid-range PC, that might draw 200 watts?

    I think you may be disappointed.
    I've had the Tesla lose 10% over a weekend., and at one point 5% over only a couple of hours, though tesla techs suggested that may have been the computer learning the battery...
    Who knows with tesla tbh

    Most of the time its less than 1 percent though
    Per hour or per weekend? 
    Good point, don't type while talking to the wife.
    Usually less than a percent over night  and so maybe 1-2% over the weekend
    West central Scotland
    4kw sse since 2014 and 6.6kw wsw / ene split since 2019
    24kwh leaf, 75Kwh Tesla and Lux 3600 with 60Kwh storage
  • Magnitio
    Magnitio Posts: 907 Forumite
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    Good point, don't type while talking to the wife.

    Or if you're really brave, don't talk to the wife while typing.

    6.4kWp (16 * 400Wp REC Alpha) facing ESE + 5kW Huawei inverter + 10kWh Huawei battery. Buckinghamshire.
  • daz061
    daz061 Posts: 15 Forumite
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    Thing that bothers me about these EV's is that the battery technology is currently the same as most things eg, my laptop and my laptop after a year doesn't hold charge like it did new so what's to say these cars after 5 years or so getting like a 3rd or half miles out of a full charge. 
    Another thing is that more diesel/petrol cars are coming off the road thus less income from fuel comes in which is defo why the price of electric is soaring. They have to claw it back somehow.
  • JKenH
    JKenH Posts: 4,789 Forumite
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    daz061 said:
    Thing that bothers me about these EV's is that the battery technology is currently the same as most things eg, my laptop and my laptop after a year doesn't hold charge like it did new so what's to say these cars after 5 years or so getting like a 3rd or half miles out of a full charge. 
    Another thing is that more diesel/petrol cars are coming off the road thus less income from fuel comes in which is defo why the price of electric is soaring. They have to claw it back somehow.
    My Leaf lost around 6% in the first year then stabilised at that. Batteries will inevitably degrade but by nothing like the rate at which laptop or mobile phone batteries do. I am already on my third battery in my iPhone. 

    I don’t agree that more diesel/electric cars coming off the road is affecting the price of electric(ity) at the moment but you are correct that the government will be losing income from fuel duty as less is consumed and I believe it is inevitable that an attempt will be made to recover lost revenue by some type of charge/tax/duty on EV usage. 
    Northern Lincolnshire. 7.8 kWp system, (4.2 kw west facing panels , 3.6 kw east facing), Solis inverters, Solar IBoost water heater, Mitsubishi SRK35ZS-S and SRK20ZS-S Wall Mounted Inverter Heat Pumps, ex Nissan Leaf owner)
  • QrizB
    QrizB Posts: 13,822 Forumite
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    Neither of those statements is correct. There are small but significant differences between laptop batteries and EV ones, and there have been no tax increases on domestic energy.
    N. Hampshire, he/him. Octopus Go elec & Tracker gas / Shell BB / Lyca mobi. Ripple Kirk Hill member.
    2.72kWp PV facing SSW installed Jan 2012. 11 x 247w panels, 3.6kw inverter. 30MWh generated, long-term average 2.6 Os.
    Taking a break, hope to be back eventually.
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  • gefnew
    gefnew Posts: 875 Forumite
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    The standing charge increase is a back door tax on every user to cover the going bust fiasco. the cot of bulb will next to hit the consumer with there billions to be clawed back.
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