EV Discussion thread

Reed_Richards

MikeJXE said:

Grumpy_chap said:

MikeJXE said:

The purpose of the photo was to find out if anyone else thought the car would be ok because its a Tesla 

Aaah, OK.
Well, I have to admit that the picture was a bit odd as my Tesla is fitted with all the latest devices including hoverboard function and PDFM (propeller driven floatation mode) so maybe that one in the photo was an older model

You could be right, looking at the position of the car it hadn't obviously been fitted with a rudder. 

You would think that the rear number plate could rotate through 90 degrees to become a rudder.  

michaels

Should have stuck with a Leaf

Nissan Leaf Water Testing - Up To 700mm - YouTube

JKenH

Used EV prices rise for first time in over a year

Used electric vehicle prices may have turned a corner after recording their first monthly increase in over a year.

Used EV prices increased 0.8% MoM in September; the first monthly increase since August 2022

Auto Trader data for September reveals second-hand EV prices have risen 0.8% at the mid-way point, marking the first monthly increase since August 2022.

The data comes from its Retail Price Index, which also shows that used EV demand is outpacing supply levels for the first time in 14 months.

https://forecourttrader.co.uk/latest-news/smmt-calls-for-government-help-to-boost-ev-sales-to-reluctant-private-buyers/683317.article

I am surprised that used EV demand is now outpacing supply (it was considerably behind a few months ago) as in the new car market private buyers only account for around a quarter of EV sales and fleets are unlikely to be buying used cars. Perhaps the leasing companies are hanging onto the cars coming off their first leases and re-leasing them to used car buyers to avoid crystallising the loss from falling residuals. Or, maybe, the price of used EVs has fallen to the level where they are just too good to pass up. Or, maybe, there is an airfield somewhere full of used EVs that no one wants to buy. 

Martyn1981

michaels said:

Should have stuck with a Leaf

Nissan Leaf Water Testing - Up To 700mm - YouTube

That's seriously impressive, but I won't be trying it or anything even close (deliberately).

If you've got more money then sense, then trying to see if a Tesla S Plaid has 'submarine mode', is an option. This vid is attempt 2, as attempt 1, even with over a tonne of ballast, simply wouldn't sink and drive properly (properly? not sure that's the correct term).

To save wasting time, you can jump to 14mins, and see the drive from the outside. This time they put multiple tonnes of steel weights in the car. Waste of a Plaid,me thinks.

2nd attempt! Driving the Tesla Plaid UNDERWATER! We did it!! Tesla Submarine 2.0

MikeJXE

Reed_Richards said:

MikeJXE said:

Grumpy_chap said:

MikeJXE said:

The purpose of the photo was to find out if anyone else thought the car would be ok because its a Tesla 

Aaah, OK.
Well, I have to admit that the picture was a bit odd as my Tesla is fitted with all the latest devices including hoverboard function and PDFM (propeller driven floatation mode) so maybe that one in the photo was an older model

You could be right, looking at the position of the car it hadn't obviously been fitted with a rudder. 

You would think that the rear number plate could rotate through 90 degrees to become a rudder.  

The car was dragged out at 10am  about 20 yards but still at the edge of the road so I'm guessing it's not ok 

michaels

Martyn1981 said:

michaels said:

Should have stuck with a Leaf

Nissan Leaf Water Testing - Up To 700mm - YouTube

That's seriously impressive, but I won't be trying it or anything even close (deliberately).

If you've got more money then sense, then trying to see if a Tesla S Plaid has 'submarine mode', is an option. This vid is attempt 2, as attempt 1, even with over a tonne of ballast, simply wouldn't sink and drive properly (properly? not sure that's the correct term).

To save wasting time, you can jump to 14mins, and see the drive from the outside. This time they put multiple tonnes of steel weights in the car. Waste of a Plaid,me thinks.

2nd attempt! Driving the Tesla Plaid UNDERWATER! We did it!! Tesla Submarine 2.0

Have too admit we have never been afraid to take our leaf through 'puddles' although I now do it slowly as if you do it fast you end up with a damp smell until whatever gets wet inside dries out, also our bumper mounted daylight running lights have bene pushed back out of their brackets I assume from water pressure when doing deep puddles too quickly.

michaels

JKenH said:

Used EV prices rise for first time in over a year

Used electric vehicle prices may have turned a corner after recording their first monthly increase in over a year.

Used EV prices increased 0.8% MoM in September; the first monthly increase since August 2022

Auto Trader data for September reveals second-hand EV prices have risen 0.8% at the mid-way point, marking the first monthly increase since August 2022.

The data comes from its Retail Price Index, which also shows that used EV demand is outpacing supply levels for the first time in 14 months.

https://forecourttrader.co.uk/latest-news/smmt-calls-for-government-help-to-boost-ev-sales-to-reluctant-private-buyers/683317.article

I am surprised that used EV demand is now outpacing supply (it was considerably behind a few months ago) as in the new car market private buyers only account for around a quarter of EV sales and fleets are unlikely to be buying used cars. Perhaps the leasing companies are hanging onto the cars coming off their first leases and re-leasing them to used car buyers to avoid crystallising the loss from falling residuals. Or, maybe, the price of used EVs has fallen to the level where they are just too good to pass up. Or, maybe, there is an airfield somewhere full of used EVs that no one wants to buy. 

I have been on the lookout for a leaf 62 and had thought that prices have bounced a bit off the floor over the last two months, there are no longer £11k high mileage or cat s/n cars around

JKenH

Motorway reveals its top 10 of used EVs that were most in demand this summer

Top 10 EVs with the most bids on Motorway – July & August 2023

	Make	Model	Age	Mileage	Sold price
1	Porsche	Taycan 4X2	2021	27,500	£43,042
2	Tesla	Model 3 Performance AWD	2021	21,000	£31,243
3	MG	ZS Exclusive EV	2020	12,600	£12,100
4	Tesla	Model 3 Long Range AWD	2021	13,186	£30,043
5	Fiat	500e La Prima	2021	9,810	£13,762
6	Volkswagen	e-Golf	2019	36,457	£10,319
7	Tesla	Model S 75D	2017	58,600	£19,105
8	Volkswagen	ID.3 Tour	2021	8,066	£22,590
9	Tesla	Model Y Long Range AWD	2022	7,500	£38,600
10	Tesla	Model 3 Standard Range+	2021	40,483	£24,056

https://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish/motorway-reveals-top-10-most-in-demand-used-evs-this-summer/289747

In case you aren’t aware Motorway provides a service for those looking to sell their car by inviting bids from dealers to purchase the car. These are the cars which received the most bids, i.e. were the most popular among dealers. The figures give a fair indication of used values for the EVs listed. 

michaels

JKenH said:

Motorway reveals its top 10 of used EVs that were most in demand this summer

Top 10 EVs with the most bids on Motorway – July & August 2023

	Make	Model	Age	Mileage	Sold price
1	Porsche	Taycan 4X2	2021	27,500	£43,042
2	Tesla	Model 3 Performance AWD	2021	21,000	£31,243
3	MG	ZS Exclusive EV	2020	12,600	£12,100
4	Tesla	Model 3 Long Range AWD	2021	13,186	£30,043
5	Fiat	500e La Prima	2021	9,810	£13,762
6	Volkswagen	e-Golf	2019	36,457	£10,319
7	Tesla	Model S 75D	2017	58,600	£19,105
8	Volkswagen	ID.3 Tour	2021	8,066	£22,590
9	Tesla	Model Y Long Range AWD	2022	7,500	£38,600
10	Tesla	Model 3 Standard Range+	2021	40,483	£24,056

https://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish/motorway-reveals-top-10-most-in-demand-used-evs-this-summer/289747

In case you aren’t aware Motorway provides a service for those looking to sell their car by inviting bids from dealers to purchase the car. These are the cars which received the most bids, i.e. were the most popular among dealers. The figures give a fair indication of used values for the EVs listed. 

If only one could buy second hand at those sort of prices!

Petriix

Motorway bids aren't an indication of value, just what a dealer is willing to pay in order to sell on at a decent profit. You'd likely get way more through a private sale.