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  • Snakes_Belly
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    edited 25 June 2022 at 3:38AM
    https://lichfieldlive.co.uk/2022/06/12/decision-by-shopping-centre-owner-to-end-contract-with-car-parking-company-welcomed-by-lichfield-mp/

    Michael Fabricant's comments. Like many people he perceives it as a service industry until he has to deal with them.  

    This is seriously good news – I have never before had to deal with a company that has so little interest in engaging with genuine concerns of the customers it is meant to serve.

    “Even when I have taken up miscarriages of justice with the company concerning constituents who have been served parking penalty notices by them because their machines were faulty, they have shown no interest in righting obvious wrongs.

    “Good riddance to a company that damaged the good name of Lichfield by their unwillingness to engage with the community. Their lack of engagement is a testimony to how a company should not be run.

    “I feel sorry for other towns who have to endure them.”

    Michael Fabricant
     

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  • Mouse007
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    BBC WatchDog “if you are struggling with an unfair parking charge do get in touch”


    Please email your PCN story to watchdog@bbc.co.uk they want to hear about it.
    Please then tell us here that you have done so.

  • Snakes_Belly
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    Mouse007 said:

    "Mr White, for HX, said that the company analyses trends and checks for inconsistencies to determine if a machine is faulty, but regardless of whether the machine is working correctly or not, if there has been a breach of terms and conditions of the car park, a PCN is issued.

    But Judge Forrester said the machine relies on 3G or 4G network and Mr White could not provide any evidence of the reliability of signal at the car park’s location.

    He added: “I do not accept that the time spent trying to work the claimant’s defective machine can be counted as parking, so it’s not outside the terms and conditions.”

    Interesting what the judge says there. I think that this may be happening in Lichfield.  Any techies want to comment on that?


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  • Mouse007
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    Wrexham: 'Disgraceful' parking fines at Plas Coch retail park slammed


    Pub fines own customer £85 for parking outside after Sunday Dinner



    BBC WatchDog “if you are struggling with an unfair parking charge do get in touch”


    Please email your PCN story to watchdog@bbc.co.uk they want to hear about it.
    Please then tell us here that you have done so.

  • Trainerman
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    Mouse007 said:

    "Mr White, for HX, said that the company analyses trends and checks for inconsistencies to determine if a machine is faulty, but regardless of whether the machine is working correctly or not, if there has been a breach of terms and conditions of the car park, a PCN is issued"

    Does that not translate as "even when we know a machine is faulty, we will still try it on by issuing a ticket."

    Another one for the SG and upcoming further consultation !
    The pen is mightier than the sword ..... and I have many pens.
  • Umkomaas
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    I'm no techie, but at one time (when 4G wasn't even rolled out), 3G internet access on my iPhone was just about adequate. Now I have 4G, whenever I enter a 3G zone, the internet is well beyond useless. Not sure whether providers have throttled back on 3G, or whether even in its original form it can no longer cope with internet requirements. Any techie?
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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  • Umkomaas
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    Thanks T_S_T, excellent explanation. 
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Snakes_Belly
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    edited 25 June 2022 at 12:45PM
    "But Judge Forrester said the machine relies on 3G or 4G network and Mr White could not provide any evidence of the reliability of signal at the car park’s location."

    It sounds like this is the issue at Lichfield. What makes it worse is there are no tickets issued. I want to suggest that Adam uses this in his defence. No signals no tickets.   

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