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Coupon-mad said:IPC's notorious ex-clamper Excel's "outrageous scam" (Hansard 2018) at the kids' play centre Jumpin' Fun featured here the other week and now even more victims have come forward:
https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/derby-news/flood-complaints-siddals-road-car-8470668.amp
All it takes is one machine out of order, a second machine only taking cash and hidden from view, plus an app that keeps crashing.
KERCHIIIING for you know who...
I think that this is what has happened to a new forum member who was not driving at the time. The driver must have had difficulty finding the right app and the only app that would be available would be the nearby NCP. Drivers have acted in good faith and should not be penalised for this.
Excel and VCS are companies that never own the problems and never try to sort out the issues.
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Coupon-mad said:IPC's notorious ex-clamper Excel's "outrageous scam" (Hansard 2018) at the kids' play centre Jumpin' Fun featured here the other week and now even more victims have come forward:
https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/derby-news/flood-complaints-siddals-road-car-8470668.amp
All it takes is one machine out of order, a second machine only taking cash and hidden from view, plus an app that keeps crashing.
KERCHIIIING for you know who...Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .
I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.
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Yet another hapless victim spouts off to a newspaper about a "scam/unfair (keying error) private PCN" yet flipping well just paid it:
https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/plymouth-news/plymouth-man-furious-after-royal-8481257.amp
SIP Parking take a bow, for continuing to rip people off for known 'keying errors' and having a system that sets people up to fail, despite the new incoming statutory CoP clearly saying that the burden must NOT be on the consumer and effectively, keying error cases are NOT valid for PCNs.
But flipping heck, what is WRONG with people in the UK who keeping paying scam PCNs like lemmings?PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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Here are some more robust victims refusing to pay utter rip-off PCNs issued at their own home (houses at Gordon Rd, Chesham) by notorious ex-clampers, PCM:
https://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/news/23559526.chesham-gordon-road-resident-refuses-pay-parking-fines/
Why would ANY managing agent EVER think for a nanosecond that getting horrific PCM in is a good idea?
And why are
Paradigm Housing (named and shamed)
...pathetically defending poxy PCM, who are apparently having a sideline field-day by "changing the style of the permit" (twice in recent months) and charging £20 a pop for the unneeded pretty new permit colour, which OF COURSE provides for more chance to catch people out st £100 a day?
At least those victims are fighting."He now has 13 tickets he refuses to pay while one of his neighbours has six tickets with a pending court action, Daniel said.
PCM has now told Daniel each resident can only have two permits despite agreement with the council, telling him he needs to sell one of his cars.
"They’ve given me a parking ticket even though my vehicle was registered with them to have a permit. They have the technology to check who’s registered but doesn’t have the permit but they choose not to use it,” he claimed.
Freshly painted parking bay lines and an order to park inside them mean his work van is “three inches bigger”, landing him with more fines.
“I have had enough, this is unethical. We are paying to live here and we should be allowed to park here.
Daniel has two permits – one for his custom car he has built himself and another one for his work van – and his wife’s car has a disabled permit given by the council to transport his autistic son to school in Aylesbury."
As we know here, this is what INEVITABLY happens when a residential site inflicts ex-clamper scum on residents, instead of simply installing a barrier or parking posts.
The residents were stupid to agree. None of them actually Googled PCM?!
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Coupon-mad said:Here are some more robust victims refusing to pay utter rip-off PCNs issued at their own home (houses at Gordon Rd, Chesham) by notorious ex-clampers, PCM:
https://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/news/23559526.chesham-gordon-road-resident-refuses-pay-parking-fines/"We don’t make any money from the permits or the fines...."Really! And they are not FINES!1 -
Managed to get a quick skim read of the article, before this popped up:Subscribe to read this articleit mentioned something about the residents being consulted followed by something that seems suspiciously PPC industry written about residents struggling to find spaces.Why do all these management companies/supermarkets etc seem to spout the same lines when confronted about the excesses of a PPC? Could it be a standard set of responses issued by the PPCs /BPA/IPC etc for landowners to use when presented with difficult questions to fob off the media?And as for the consultation - did this really take place in accordance with the landlord and tenant act? - or again is it some half baked measure or statement to try and make the scheme seem justified?It would help if this resident would post on here .If no proper consultation took place then it should be an un authorised access and processing of personal data by the managemetn company ( as they are jointly and severally liable for the actions of their agents)
From the Plain Language Commission:
"The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"2 -
"Further complaints have been made about a parking firm's alleged "bully boy, cash cow" tactics by visitors to a Suffolk seaside car park hit with a £100 fine."
NPM and ONE PARKING SOLUTION LTD are both named and shamed for allegedly colluding to use OPS' own reportedly unreliable app and ripping off honest paying drivers at a Suffolk destination beauty spot:
"We were advised to pay the £60 penalty charge now, or it would increase to £100 if we went to appeal. Working as a nurse in the NHS, this is a fine I can ill afford to pay. As we paid for five hours and only stayed for just under three hours, we wondered how can this be right?However, having reflected on the situation my wife and I think the request by One Parking Solutions (NPM's handling agents) is manifestly unfair.
He said the queue for the machine was 15 deep, while NPM's Poppay parking app took an hour and 45 minutes to download while they visited attractions, including the town's pier, because of a poor mobile phone signal.
"It is simply morally wrong and unfair having to pay a fine when circumstances beyond our control stopped us from buying a ticket within the enforced stipulated time.
"One Parking Solution should not be allowed to get away with bully boy, cash cow tactics. They need to be named and shamed."
Well said.
Poppay is OPS' own reportedly unreliable/useless app, which has also let drivers down at Vantage Point Brighton. How can it be right that notorious "thug" ex-clampers can invent an app themselves that takes well in excess of 10 minutes - in this case, an hour & 45 minutes(!) - to download and use?
Honestly, NPM and OPS, just do one!
PPCs' conduct is a national scandal.
Worth us remembering for NPM cases that NPM are using OPS' own invention, the 'Poppay' app.PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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And yet again we have ParkingEye cancelling a PCN the minute a newspaper gets involved and points out that there was apparently NO OVERSTAY:
https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/23565579.woman-questions-parking-charge-issued-asda-stay/
Why issue a PCN then, ParkingEye?
No idea because they've lifted the carpet and swept the dirt under it, BPA-stylee.PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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Coupon-mad said:And yet again we have ParkingEye cancelling a PCN the minute a newspaper gets involved and points out that there was apparently NO OVERSTAY:
https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/23565579.woman-questions-parking-charge-issued-asda-stay/
Why issue a PCN then, ParkingEye?
No idea because they've lifted the carpet and swept the dirt under it, BPA-stylee.“Parkingeye operates a BPA (British Parking Association) audited appeals process, which motorists can use to appeal their Parking Charge Notice.
"If anyone has mitigating circumstances, we would encourage them to highlight this by appealing."
Yeah, right, well whoopee-do!
Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .
I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.
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I thought this was interesting:
https://www.ifsecglobal.com/video-surveillance/anpr-camera-code-of-practice-surveillance-camera-commissioners-2021-22-annual-report/amp/
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/biometrics-and-surveillance-camera-commissioner-report-2021-to-2022The report found that ANPR currently lacks, but urgently needs:
- a firm legal basis for its operation
- oversight through an accountable governance framework
- monitoring by an independent body with a duty to report publicly
Surveillance Camera Code of Practice – What is its future?
The report references the incoming Data Protection and Digital Information Bill, which is set to remove the functions of the Biometrics and Surveillance Camera Commissioner and abolish the role.
The Annual Report for 2021-22 is likely to the last annual report by the Biometrics and Surveillance Camera Commissioner because abolition of the role is proposed in the Data Protection and Digital Information Bill currently on its way through Parliament.
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