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  • Is it worth having a 'lifestyle' discussion with him about his future?  Like, what job does he want, where does he see himself living? What car would he like to drive? Where would he like to go on holiday? And then look at what kind of salary he would need in order to achieve this and what grades he needs... or do you think that would make him feel it was less achievable? Not sure how he reacts to pressure.

    It's a tough one for certain, but you can't do it for him. He needs to be the one driving it for certain.
    LMD x
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  • Squirrelz92
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    edited 11 July 2022 at 7:01AM
    Morning Keedie, I am so sorry to hear that you have not been in a good place mentally the last few days :( My heart really does go out to you. From reading your diary since the beginning I have nothing but pure admiration for you. Such an incredibly strong person who doesn't give up! YOU CAN DO THIS! Don't think of yourself as going backwards on this journey just because you have decided to accept your Mum's offer of loaning you the tuition fees! Like you said, this has already released some of the financial stress and you feel more positive for it. Everyone needs a helping hand and there's no shame in it at all! You are still moving forward and always have a plan so please don't put yourself down :(

    Really hope you enjoy your week away at Blackpool (down the road from me!). I am sure the family getaway time is just what the doctor ordered! You definitely need time to yourself and those walks alone and journalling I bet will make the world of difference!

    Brilliant news regarding Octopus!!!! I bet that has helped with a little bit of the worrying too now you can pay less on the DD!
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  • Keedie
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    Morning @Squirrelz92, thank you very much. Your kind words do make me feel a bit better about accepting the help. The pressure was too much, and I can feel myself becoming more and more mentally unwell. And to be honest, his selfish teenage ways made me realise that I was doing everything I can to make sure that he was living his best life, and here I was, all stressed out and suffering on a daily basis. Something had to give and I refused for it to be sanity. As without being mentally sound, I cannot work or function and considering that my life is like a house of cards at the moment, I can't afford for my ability to earn to be sabotaged. I was too unwell physically and mentally to work for over 2 years and that was incredibly hard, and I don't ever want to experience that again. It took about a further 2 years of being in work to improve my credit rating, get on top of bills and payments and to have a little bit of a work/life balance.

    I don't think I'm a very strong person at all, but that's very nice of you to say, and I really do appreciate it. This forum has been so helpful to me, and I don't think I would be as focussed on my journey if it wasn't for the support and advice that we all give each other. I actually managed to fall asleep last night and for the first time in weeks I was able to dream. Asking for and accepting help has really lifted a load of tension from me, and I didn't realise how bad it was until I was able to actually sleep. Hopefully my appetite will come back soon as well, as I've not been able to really finish a meal and I've been getting really bad headaches.

    My carer is coming around 10am for her 1.5 hour domestic shift, so she'll be able to help me clean and tidy up so that when I get home on Friday evening, everything is nice. There's nothing worse than going away on holiday and coming back to messy chaos! 

    My manager let me know that my request for an increase in my hours was approved, so from 1 August 2022, I will go from 17.5 to 21 hours a week. And that's about £177 extra a month take home pay. So once the Universal Credit adjustment is made, I'll see where I stand with actual available extra income, but I predict it will be around £80 which will help with the rising cost of food etc. I'm very happy about the reduced direct debit for Octopus, as it was painful to pay it knowing that I was going out of my way to keep my bills down and I was paying 3 times as much as I was actually using.

    I love Blackpool, ever since I went there as a child and stayed in Pontins and went to the Blackpool Pleasure Beach and on the South Pier. So I'll be enjoying your lovely neck of the woods this week Squirrelz, and taking full advantage of those walks and being by the sea 😁. Nature is so soothing, so I'm looking forward to just having a break.
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  • Oh Keedie, I’m so sorry you’ve been in such a bad place, I did keep wondering where you were but I thought you might have been in Blackpool already.

    You have made the right decisions, and your mum is wonderful 🥰 I love that she’s going to have your son whilst you’re at work so she can keep him at his schooling… I think this will work really well for all of you.

    I hope you have a fab time away and you get the downtime you need. Well done on the octopus payment, that’s a fair amount extra you were being charged!

    Keep your chin up, you’re really strong and doing wonderful

    Sending you lots of love 
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  • AntoMac
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    Crikey Keedie, you really have got a lot going on and times are clearly hard for you.

    My thoughts, for what they’re worth… I understand you feeling a sense of shame for going to your Mum for help, but my guess is that she’s delighted to help you, and to feel useful. My own Mum tells me over and over again to go to her If I’m ever struggling financially. 
    I don’t think you son can help his selfishness. My own teenager has been horrendous at times. I think it’s part of growing up and being a teenager is hard. Who better to hit out at than the one who loves you almost unconditionally? 
    That’s some great work with your energy bills. Worth the effort of taking proper readings to get a more realistic monthly payment in place. I heard of a £650 payment coming soon for certain households. Not sure if that’s something you will qualify for? 
    Enjoy Blackpool. I have had some good holidays there. I was there in February to watch football (400plus mile round trip in a day) but that was a very grim midwinters day and we got soaked. The things we do to keep our teenagers happy!!
    You are doing your absolute best. What more can anyone do but their absolute best? You have some good plans in place so keep going and you’ll be fine.
    I’m quite envious of you seeing the waves of the Irish Sea crashing in. It will be lovely. Hope it’s nice and warm but not too hot.
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  • Keedie
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    It was a horrible drive up here, as there were so many parts of the motorways being technologically upgraded so there were a lot of speed restrictions in place, and that lead to a lot of traffic. But we finally made it and I felt like an uber the whole way as the boys sat in the back in silence on their phones and listening to whatever on their headphones 😂. My car was making a strange sound by the time we arrived, like it was dehydrated or straining or something 😩. So I think I need to put some water in it tomorrow. Or something. 

    It's been really tough lately, but just getting out of London has been so nice. I've been struggling more than I cared to admit @LittleMissDetermined and I think I needed a few days of death by duvet to try and recalibrate. I think no matter how old we get, we always need our parents and I've been really missing my dad through all of this stress but it's been too painful to go to his grave because some wicked and heartless people stole half of the fence that we put around his grave! But I'm very grateful for my mum and I know that she will help him with his routine and to see the importance of the gift that he's been given, as she's a retired teacher. It'll help me as well, so that I can concentrate on my work and not have to keep getting up to check that he's logged into his next lesson, and isn't trying to doze off or go on Netflix or the Playstation. He won't have those things at my mum's, so he'll be able to get focussed and as he will be spending part of the week there, we'll have some much needed time away from each other as we're living on top of each other at the moment.

    You're right @AntoMac, my mum jumped at the chance to help me and told me, "Well it's just sitting there... and this is to help you and it's for my grandson's future." So I've been trying to take that all in, and not feel so guilty. It's still there, but in the same way that I'm trying my hardest to be there for my son, I realised that I wasn't allowing her to be able to that for me and so I do feel better. I can't believe you did over 400 miles in one day in the winter! And yes, I think you're right about kids and teenagers especially, it is a hard time and there's no amount of money that could make me go back to being a teenager, especially nowadays with the pressures of social media etc. But that selfishness does grate on me at times, but he knows I'm not going anywhere, so I get the brunt of his frustrations, so it's nice to be in a different environment this week and to know that we've got some time apart coming up.
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  • LittleMissDetermined
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    edited 12 July 2022 at 5:51AM
    Great pictures, have a really wonderful week xx
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  • Squirrelz92
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    So pleased that you are enjoying your time away even though the traffic and speed restrictions weren't all that great! Lovely photos! I have lived here for just over 3 years and only ventured to Blackpool once!
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