Diesel gate

35har1old

ontheroad1970 said:

diystarter7 said:

Grey_Critic said:

The thought of getting money for nothing appeals to many. In all my years in the Motor Trade I never ever came across anyone buying or nothering about emmisions.

I bought Diesels for the economy  - or when I bought an estate for how many of my grandsons big toys he said he could fit in it.

Your argument is fundamentally flawed.  I can only talk about the Mercedes as its the only diesel we had and when they adjusted the settings, I'm sure the MPG was slightly reduced, and the car feeling not as smooth on idel. However, as we had sold the car when it was almost 3 years old, we have not bothered to claim. But many still have cars they brought new or used on the basis they were greener but not

Please feel to counter the above

Thanks

Without being a chancer, you have to have a quantifiable loss.  The chancers are, for clarity, the ambulance chasing firms who've ridden on the coat tails of a legal situation that was actually not relevant in this country or in Europe.  I had a Mercedes, and I wasn't called in to do an update to remove a 'cheat device or program' - because no such device existed because it was not needed in this country, as we measure things to different standards to the US.

You must have been one of the luckily ones as my VW was recalled for the so called fix but it suffers from arise and fall in revs. Have. to turn of engine several times before revs settle. No more VW or associated brands for me. So from your Statement that no such device was needed Your are suggesting the UK has a lower standard than the US

Jenni_D

35har1old said:

ontheroad1970 said:

diystarter7 said:

Grey_Critic said:

The thought of getting money for nothing appeals to many. In all my years in the Motor Trade I never ever came across anyone buying or nothering about emmisions.

I bought Diesels for the economy  - or when I bought an estate for how many of my grandsons big toys he said he could fit in it.

Your argument is fundamentally flawed.  I can only talk about the Mercedes as its the only diesel we had and when they adjusted the settings, I'm sure the MPG was slightly reduced, and the car feeling not as smooth on idel. However, as we had sold the car when it was almost 3 years old, we have not bothered to claim. But many still have cars they brought new or used on the basis they were greener but not

Please feel to counter the above

Thanks

Without being a chancer, you have to have a quantifiable loss.  The chancers are, for clarity, the ambulance chasing firms who've ridden on the coat tails of a legal situation that was actually not relevant in this country or in Europe.  I had a Mercedes, and I wasn't called in to do an update to remove a 'cheat device or program' - because no such device existed because it was not needed in this country, as we measure things to different standards to the US.

You must have been one of the luckily ones as my VW was recalled for the so called fix but it suffers from arise and fall in revs. Have. to turn of engine several times before revs settle. No more VW or associated brands for me. So from your Statement that no such device was needed Your are suggesting the UK has a lower standard than the US

In the case of NOx emissions (which is what the "cheat" device was all about), the answer is unequivocally - YES. (Not sure about now, but previously NOx emissions were not part of the emissions testing regime in the UK/EU. Or if they were, the levels were far higher than those of the US).

diystarter7

35har1old said:

ontheroad1970 said:

diystarter7 said:

Grey_Critic said:

The thought of getting money for nothing appeals to many. In all my years in the Motor Trade I never ever came across anyone buying or nothering about emmisions.

I bought Diesels for the economy  - or when I bought an estate for how many of my grandsons big toys he said he could fit in it.

Your argument is fundamentally flawed.  I can only talk about the Mercedes as its the only diesel we had and when they adjusted the settings, I'm sure the MPG was slightly reduced, and the car feeling not as smooth on idel. However, as we had sold the car when it was almost 3 years old, we have not bothered to claim. But many still have cars they brought new or used on the basis they were greener but not

Please feel to counter the above

Thanks

Without being a chancer, you have to have a quantifiable loss.  The chancers are, for clarity, the ambulance chasing firms who've ridden on the coat tails of a legal situation that was actually not relevant in this country or in Europe.  I had a Mercedes, and I wasn't called in to do an update to remove a 'cheat device or program' - because no such device existed because it was not needed in this country, as we measure things to different standards to the US.

You must have been one of the luckily ones as my VW was recalled for the so called fix but it suffers from arise and fall in revs. Have. to turn of engine several times before revs settle. No more VW or associated brands for me. So from your Statement that no such device was needed Your are suggesting the UK has a lower standard than the US

Hi

I doubt the poster will be able to counter that argument and a good one at that.

Appreciated.

ontheroad1970

diystarter7 said:

35har1old said:

ontheroad1970 said:

diystarter7 said:

Grey_Critic said:

The thought of getting money for nothing appeals to many. In all my years in the Motor Trade I never ever came across anyone buying or nothering about emmisions.

I bought Diesels for the economy  - or when I bought an estate for how many of my grandsons big toys he said he could fit in it.

Your argument is fundamentally flawed.  I can only talk about the Mercedes as its the only diesel we had and when they adjusted the settings, I'm sure the MPG was slightly reduced, and the car feeling not as smooth on idel. However, as we had sold the car when it was almost 3 years old, we have not bothered to claim. But many still have cars they brought new or used on the basis they were greener but not

Please feel to counter the above

Thanks

Without being a chancer, you have to have a quantifiable loss.  The chancers are, for clarity, the ambulance chasing firms who've ridden on the coat tails of a legal situation that was actually not relevant in this country or in Europe.  I had a Mercedes, and I wasn't called in to do an update to remove a 'cheat device or program' - because no such device existed because it was not needed in this country, as we measure things to different standards to the US.

You must have been one of the luckily ones as my VW was recalled for the so called fix but it suffers from arise and fall in revs. Have. to turn of engine several times before revs settle. No more VW or associated brands for me. So from your Statement that no such device was needed Your are suggesting the UK has a lower standard than the US

Hi

I doubt the poster will be able to counter that argument and a good one at that.

Appreciated.

In a court of law in the UK you have to have a quantifiable loss.  Since none of these cases have made it to court, it hasn't been tested.  Mercedes has no part to play in VW.  Not the same company at all.  Only similarity would be German ownership, but with all those Mercedes in your garage, you should know that.