Diesel gate

themightydrum

Hi,
Following on from the PPI issue some years ago, it is my understanding that if you asked the bank if they owed you any PPI rebate, they were legally obliged to say yes (if they were) and pay accordingly.  So although people could use various 3rd party companies, this could be easily done by ourselves!

Now to the diesel-gate scandal and wondering the same thing, ie if I rang up the finance house or dealer etc, are they also legally obliged to say yes, or do I have to use a 3rd party law firm who's taking these potential claims?

Just curious.
thanks for any feedback!

Ebe_Scrooge

The thing is, with PPI there was a tangible financial element that can be quantified.  My question to you would be, what provable financial losses have you suffered?  In fact, it might even be argued that since vehicle tax is based upon emissions, you've actually been paying less tax than you should have been - maybe, when the investigation is concluded, you'd be getting a bill from HMRC/DVLA for unpaid tax

shiraz99

themightydrum said:

Hi,
Following on from the PPI issue some years ago, it is my understanding that if you asked the bank if they owed you any PPI rebate, they were legally obliged to say yes (if they were) and pay accordingly.  So although people could use various 3rd party companies, this could be easily done by ourselves!

Now to the diesel-gate scandal and wondering the same thing, ie if I rang up the finance house or dealer etc, are they also legally obliged to say yes, or do I have to use a 3rd party law firm who's taking these potential claims?

Just curious.
thanks for any feedback!

Say yes to what exactly? No claims are being settled and as yet no ruling has been made of any kind in the UK. Care to share why you think you're entitled to anything?

Herzlos

How much do you feel you are owed? 

As I see it, it'd be the reduction on value of the car (which corrected fairly quickly) minus the avoided VED.

There might be something about having your cars performance reduced to match the quoted emissions but I've no idea how you could quantify it. 

walkaboutgeek

VW to pay over 190 million to uk car owners in todays news this will surly start the ball rolling for all

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walkaboutgeek said:

VW to pay over 190 million to uk car owners in todays news this will surly start the ball rolling for all

Slater & Gordon seem particularly pleased anyway.

https://news.sky.com/story/dieselgate-scandal-vw-drivers-in-uk-class-action-win-163193m-settlement-12621224

VW reckon it is cheaper to fold and cough up a small bung to settle without admitting liability (seems all the rage now) than fight it.

They have bought off the claimants, there is no band wagon to jump on as they admit nothing.

[Deleted User]

Looking forward to apologies from everyone who gave bad advice here. Looks like it was well worth signing up to one of these lawsuits, and those with the foresight to do so are in for a nice payout.

Imagine how you would feel if you had taken that advice and missed out. I wonder if you can still join.

k3lvc

walkaboutgeek said:

VW to pay over 190 million to uk car owners in todays news this will surly start the ball rolling for all

Assuming

a) it ever comes to fruition and ambulance chasers don't get greedy and push for more
b) other manufacturers share the same risk attitude - especially as this has not set a legal precedent

Would love to know the source of the £190m and how many other manufacturers have chipped in to avoid it going to court

Ectophile

walkaboutgeek said:

VW to pay over 190 million to uk car owners in todays news this will surly start the ball rolling for all

I'm sure a lot of people will try.  But is there any evidence that any other car manufacturer deliberately fiddled their emissions test results?

Flight3287462

[Deleted User] said:

Looking forward to apologies from everyone who gave bad advice here. Looks like it was well worth signing up to one of these lawsuits, and those with the foresight to do so are in for a nice payout.

Imagine how you would feel if you had taken that advice and missed out. I wonder if you can still join.

Really you'll be waiting a long time.  You have suffered no loss and have just jumped on a greedy bandwagon.  Hopefully what goes around comes around.

[Deleted User]

Flight3287462 said:

[Deleted User] said:

Looking forward to apologies from everyone who gave bad advice here. Looks like it was well worth signing up to one of these lawsuits, and those with the foresight to do so are in for a nice payout.

Imagine how you would feel if you had taken that advice and missed out. I wonder if you can still join.

Really you'll be waiting a long time.  You have suffered no loss and have just jumped on a greedy bandwagon.  Hopefully what goes around comes around.

You hope VW owners will be sued and settle out of court? Seems rather vindictive.

The loss they suffered is in the value of the vehicle and the damage to their health. There is also the psychological harm caused by knowing that their vehicle was contributing more than they thought to climate change and damaging other people's health.

Some people also had to have their cars modified when the scandal came to light. As well as the time wasted, VW have not been very clear about the effects of the fix and that would probably have come out in court. I suspect they were significant.

Just because you value it at £0 is meaningless, it's what a court would value it at. VW seems to think it would be at least £190 million.