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There is also the psychological harm caused by knowing that their vehicle was contributing more than they thought to climate change and damaging other people's health.

I still fail to see why the person responsible for damaging my health by producing all that deadly nitrogen oxide should be rewarded financially for doing it, whereas I just get to die a bit sooner. Where is my compensation as a pedestrian?

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There is also the psychological harm caused by knowing that their vehicle was contributing more than they thought to climate change and damaging other people's health.

I still fail to see why the person responsible for damaging my health by producing all that deadly nitrogen oxide should be rewarded financially for doing it, whereas I just get to die a bit sooner. Where is my compensation as a pedestrian?

Good point. Shame you didn't launch your own claim for compensation before the time limit ran out.

ontheroad1970

It aint free money. Don't moan when the price of cars go up partly as a result.  But then greedy people don't tend to care about anyone else.

ontheroad1970

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Flight3287462 said:

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Looking forward to apologies from everyone who gave bad advice here. Looks like it was well worth signing up to one of these lawsuits, and those with the foresight to do so are in for a nice payout.

Imagine how you would feel if you had taken that advice and missed out. I wonder if you can still join.

Really you'll be waiting a long time.  You have suffered no loss and have just jumped on a greedy bandwagon.  Hopefully what goes around comes around.

You hope VW owners will be sued and settle out of court? Seems rather vindictive.

The loss they suffered is in the value of the vehicle and the damage to their health. There is also the psychological harm caused by knowing that their vehicle was contributing more than they thought to climate change and damaging other people's health.

Some people also had to have their cars modified when the scandal came to light. As well as the time wasted, VW have not been very clear about the effects of the fix and that would probably have come out in court. I suspect they were significant.

Just because you value it at £0 is meaningless, it's what a court would value it at. VW seems to think it would be at least £190 million.

Don't all cars burning fuel do this?  So why aren't people sueing train companies also - after all diesel trains put out emissions too.  VW have admitted nothing Greedy so and sos have taken taken their 30 pieces of silver out of sheer greed.  VW settling doesn't mean it thought it would lose.  It has done it to draw a line as a bit of PR.  Statute of limitations stops any further claims which is the reason for the timing.

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There is also the psychological harm caused by knowing that their vehicle was contributing more than they thought to climate change and damaging other people's health.

I still fail to see why the person responsible for damaging my health by producing all that deadly nitrogen oxide should be rewarded financially for doing it, whereas I just get to die a bit sooner. Where is my compensation as a pedestrian?

Good point. Shame you didn't launch your own claim for compensation before the time limit ran out.

But I can't quantify my losses, or even prove how many extra days of good health I could have enjoyed without VW diesels.

Now if VW admitted liability and gave a few billion pounds to the NHS to care for the people who's health their cars have damaged I'd be happy- but VW have admitted nothing, and have simply bought off the case, in the same way that Elites give money to people they have never met to make them drop unfounded legal action, go away and be quiet.

Also we don't know how much of the payout will reach the claimers, VW have paid "tens of millions" towards legal fees, the remaining 193 million in legal fees will come from the payout- won't any actual payout be taxable as unearned income as well?

The big winners are John Byrne (Therium UK) & David Whitmore (Slater & Gordon), I wish I'd listened to my mother and gone into Law.......

shiraz99

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Looking forward to apologies from everyone who gave bad advice here. Looks like it was well worth signing up to one of these lawsuits, and those with the foresight to do so are in for a nice payout.

Imagine how you would feel if you had taken that advice and missed out. I wonder if you can still join.

Why, the information was and still correct. VW haven't been found guilty of anything, they've simply made a settlement due to it being less expensive than continuing the court case. Good for those that have made a claim but it's more luck than judgement that they may get anything.

DrEskimo

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There is also the psychological harm caused by knowing that their vehicle was contributing more than they thought to climate change and damaging other people's health.

I still fail to see why the person responsible for damaging my health by producing all that deadly nitrogen oxide should be rewarded financially for doing it, whereas I just get to die a bit sooner. Where is my compensation as a pedestrian?

Good point. Shame you didn't launch your own claim for compensation before the time limit ran out.

But I can't quantify my losses, or even prove how many extra days of good health I could have enjoyed without VW diesels.

Now if VW admitted liability and gave a few billion pounds to the NHS to care for the people who's health their cars have damaged I'd be happy- but VW have admitted nothing, and have simply bought off the case, in the same way that Elites give money to people they have never met to make them drop unfounded legal action, go away and be quiet.

Also we don't know how much of the payout will reach the claimers, VW have paid "tens of millions" towards legal fees, the remaining 193 million in legal fees will come from the payout- won't any actual payout be taxable as unearned income as well?

The big winners are John Byrne (Therium UK) & David Whitmore (Slater & Gordon), I wish I'd listened to my mother and gone into Law.......

One member on SpeakEV has stated he got paid out....£350....

Now complaining that it wasn't as much as they were hoping for, which inevitably comes back to the question "how much were your losses?", which to date, no one can answer.

Just the same old drivel about CO2 (which this had nothing to do with), NO2, which isn't even listed on any car brochure, and then conjecture about resale value and possible problems with the fix (generally related to a EGR problem, which is a common problem regardless of whether the fix has occurred or not, and there is no objective data to show whether the fix increased the incidence of these problems or not).

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Flight3287462 said:

[Deleted User] said:

Looking forward to apologies from everyone who gave bad advice here. Looks like it was well worth signing up to one of these lawsuits, and those with the foresight to do so are in for a nice payout.

Imagine how you would feel if you had taken that advice and missed out. I wonder if you can still join.

Really you'll be waiting a long time.  You have suffered no loss and have just jumped on a greedy bandwagon.  Hopefully what goes around comes around.

You hope VW owners will be sued and settle out of court? Seems rather vindictive.

The loss they suffered is in the value of the vehicle and the damage to their health. There is also the psychological harm caused by knowing that their vehicle was contributing more than they thought to climate change and damaging other people's health.

Some people also had to have their cars modified when the scandal came to light. As well as the time wasted, VW have not been very clear about the effects of the fix and that would probably have come out in court. I suspect they were significant.

Just because you value it at £0 is meaningless, it's what a court would value it at. VW seems to think it would be at least £190 million.

Why would you buy a diesel if you were that concerned about health? Nobody in the UK buys a diesel based on NOx emissions either real or fake because they are not listed on sales, NOx is not part of UK car tax or car sales unlike the US.

Nobody in the UK was miss-sold a diesel based on the cheat tests that were designed for the US market, that VW are paying out to save on legal fees is as bad as the PPI auto payouts without investigating

user1977

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There is also the psychological harm caused by knowing that their vehicle was contributing more than they thought to climate change and damaging other people's health.

I still fail to see why the person responsible for damaging my health by producing all that deadly nitrogen oxide should be rewarded financially for doing it, whereas I just get to die a bit sooner. Where is my compensation as a pedestrian?

Good point. Shame you didn't launch your own claim for compensation before the time limit ran out.

won't any actual payout be taxable as unearned income as well?

I don't see why it would be taxable? Income Tax only applies to specific types of income, there's no general rule that everything you receive is taxed.

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won't any actual payout be taxable as unearned income as well?

I don't see why it would be taxable? Income Tax only applies to specific types of income, there's no general rule that everything you receive is taxed.

I thought the general rule is that everything is taxed, except certain things that fall within specific allowances.