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  • GDB2222
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    edited 14 April 2022 at 12:06PM
    There are 5000+ deaths a year from asbestos in this country. That is 1 death in 100, and 4 times the number of deaths on the road.  This is a good 30 years after the toxicity of asbestos was recognised officially.


    https://www.hse.gov.uk/statistics/causdis/asbestos-related-disease.pdf

     
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • user1977
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    GDB2222 said:
    There are 5000+ deaths a year from asbestos in this country. That is 1 death in 100, and 4 times the number of deaths on the road.  This is a good 30 years after the toxicity of asbestos was recognised officially.

    https://www.hse.gov.uk/statistics/causdis/asbestos-related-disease.pdf
     
    Indeed - though as that report says,

    "It is generally recognised that heavy asbestos exposures are required in order to produce clinically significant asbestosis within the lifetime of an individual. Current trends therefore still largely reflect the results of heavy exposures in the past."
  • FreeBear
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    F37A said:
    andy444 said:
    Don't know what part of the country you live in OP but if you have a serious lung issue then you should check that you don't buy a house in an area which is known to release radon.
    thanks will look out for that

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  • GDB2222
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    user1977 said:
    GDB2222 said:
    There are 5000+ deaths a year from asbestos in this country. That is 1 death in 100, and 4 times the number of deaths on the road.  This is a good 30 years after the toxicity of asbestos was recognised officially.

    https://www.hse.gov.uk/statistics/causdis/asbestos-related-disease.pdf
     
    Indeed - though as that report says,

    "It is generally recognised that heavy asbestos exposures are required in order to produce clinically significant asbestosis within the lifetime of an individual. Current trends therefore still largely reflect the results of heavy exposures in the past."

    That's very true, but mesothelioma only requires a single asbestos fibre lodged in the lungs to cause it. Of course, that's far more likely with heavy exposure, but you could be unlucky. Mesothelioma accounts for half of asbestos deaths.

    Reminds me of Dirty Harry:

    Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?


    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • F37A said:
    user1977 said:
    OP, this is your third thread about asbestos - is there a reason why this is such a concern to you over every other aspect of your purchase?
    If this is such a major worry (unfounded in my humble opinion) but probably better to look at something a lot newer & look up before looking around.

    As for the mesothelioma cancer my late mother died from , it was most probably caused by hand washing my late Dads overalls. He was a lorry mechanic in the army then afterwards for a while & brake pads were made with asbestos .

    Strange how she died of it but Dad didn't 
    Thanks for sharing. I have a lung issue so particularly careful with this. But alot of these types of properties with widespread asbestos knocking about
    What is your post hoping to achieve?

    The best advice is to look at houses built in the last 20-25 years as most of those will not have asbestos anywhere.

    If you continue to look at 60/70/80s houses then expect to find artex ceilings, many of which will have asbestos. 

    Ours has artex with asbestos but we are having it skimmed over so if you came to view it, you would have no idea it was even there unless you started cutting chunks out of the ceiling to see what is underneath the plaster. 
  • F37A
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    F37A said:
    user1977 said:
    OP, this is your third thread about asbestos - is there a reason why this is such a concern to you over every other aspect of your purchase?
    If this is such a major worry (unfounded in my humble opinion) but probably better to look at something a lot newer & look up before looking around.

    As for the mesothelioma cancer my late mother died from , it was most probably caused by hand washing my late Dads overalls. He was a lorry mechanic in the army then afterwards for a while & brake pads were made with asbestos .

    Strange how she died of it but Dad didn't 
    Thanks for sharing. I have a lung issue so particularly careful with this. But alot of these types of properties with widespread asbestos knocking about
    What is your post hoping to achieve?

    The best advice is to look at houses built in the last 20-25 years as most of those will not have asbestos anywhere.

    If you continue to look at 60/70/80s houses then expect to find artex ceilings, many of which will have asbestos. 

    Ours has artex with asbestos but we are having it skimmed over so if you came to view it, you would have no idea it was even there unless you started cutting chunks out of the ceiling to see what is underneath the plaster. 
    My post is hoping to achieve? Well should I buy the property in question and help debate the pros and cons of buying a property with asbestos, fully understand the risks and to assess the associated risk and learn from others experience.

    Ok thanks I will look for properties a bit older.  
  • babyblade41
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    I think you need to look at properties a lot newer ... 
  • F37A
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    I think you need to look at properties a lot newer ... 
    Can't afford them. 

    There's one 1920s property I'm looking at tomorrow. I don't mind some asbestos its just that if its everywhere that is a problem for me.
  • TheJP
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    The ceilings are in good condition but due to your health concerns are worried about the asbestos that it contains. You like the house but cant afford to buy a property that falls outside of the asbestos usage window.

    Buying the house and getting rid of the asbestos but at your cost is probably the most viable option for you.
  • F37A
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    TheJP said:
    The ceilings are in good condition but due to your health concerns are worried about the asbestos that it contains. You like the house but cant afford to buy a property that falls outside of the asbestos usage window.

    Buying the house and getting rid of the asbestos but at your cost is probably the most viable option for you.
    Indeed, this is what I am thinking about now - removal but risk of disturbance is there with this approach. I would hope they wouldn't mess it up but always a possibility. 
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