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Garage has aquired car in a misleading way!

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  • motorguy
    motorguy Posts: 22,621 Forumite
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    Jenni_D said:
    It matters if it was transferred to the dealer for scrapping - that's a specific category on the V5C transfer section (I believe) and so would have been registered accordingly with DVLA.

    There has been nothing to suggest that was the case?

    Beyong economical repair for an individual <> scrap.
  • motorguy
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    edited 30 March 2022 at 11:59AM

    Gather together all the photos and as much documents relating to the sale as possible. Then take them to court to get the finance agreement cancelled.
    Op has only passed on what girlfriend has deemed to tell them.

    Has never come back to say which of the 2 garages quoted £4K (best guess Kia dealer) but no mention of what the other garage quoted.
    Did they say they were going to scrap it? Or is that just a take on a guess, as none of us where there?

    Don't know where you get the idea that a court would cancel the finance agreement. If OP's girlfriend does she's in a heap more trouble.
    Are you prepared to help her on the advice you are giving?
    Agreed.

    My ex wife took her car to a main peugeot dealers for some repairs.  They told her the repairs would cost £1300 and the car was only worth that, so for her the car was "beyond economi repair".  I saw the car driving about for years after she sold it.


  • Jenni_D
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    motorguy said:
    Jenni_D said:
    It matters if it was transferred to the dealer for scrapping - that's a specific category on the V5C transfer section (I believe) and so would have been registered accordingly with DVLA.

    There has been nothing to suggest that was the case?

    Beyong economical repair for an individual <> scrap.
    I was responding to a specific point (unrelated to whatever may have happened with the OP's partner) - and @Ditzy_Mitzy has responded accordingly. :)

    Jenni x
  • DB1904
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    Herzlos said:
    Ibrahim5 said:
    It's not theft, more like obtaining goods by deception.

    Where was the deception?

    Garage: It'll cost £4000 to repair, or I can take it off your hands and save you the hassle.
    Owner: Ok, you can have it.
    Garage: <Repairs it over 6 months>
    Owner: <shocked>.

    There was no lies or co-ersion. The owner could have arranged for a scrap yard to come and collect it from the garage and give her £40, and then the scrap yard could have repaired it and sold it. Or she could have had it towed home and dumped in her garden until she found an engine and learned how to replace it.

    The garage knew what it was worth to them but convinced the seller it was worth nothing to her, that is deception.
    If the garage agreed to scrap the vehicle then they must state this in the V5 reciept, which they give to the previous ownew and when they take ownership of the vehicle.

    £4000 to repair a broken timing chain is hugely excessive cost and should not cost a capable and skilled mechanic no more than £500 in parts and labour. Even if the valves were damaged in the engine, a replacement or rebuilt engine would not cost no more than £2000 to fit.

    Gather together all the photos and as much documents relating to the sale as possible. Then take them to court to get the finance agreement cancelled.



    Where is the dishonesty or false representation?
  • Jumblebumble
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    edited 31 March 2022 at 12:56PM
    motorguy said:

    Gather together all the photos and as much documents relating to the sale as possible. Then take them to court to get the finance agreement cancelled.
    Op has only passed on what girlfriend has deemed to tell them.

    Has never come back to say which of the 2 garages quoted £4K (best guess Kia dealer) but no mention of what the other garage quoted.
    Did they say they were going to scrap it? Or is that just a take on a guess, as none of us where there?

    Don't know where you get the idea that a court would cancel the finance agreement. If OP's girlfriend does she's in a heap more trouble.
    Are you prepared to help her on the advice you are giving?
    Agreed.

    My ex wife took her car to a main peugeot dealers for some repairs.  They told her the repairs would cost £1300 and the car was only worth that, so for her the car was "beyond economi repair".  I saw the car driving about for years after she sold it.


    Disagree

     A main dealer has to conduct the repairs in accordance with the manufacturers instructions ie OEM New parts or they are likely to risk losing their franchise
    A non main dealer can fit second hand or non genuine  parts etc

    I useed to dabbble in 2cvs
    The gearboxes used to jam up if they were reversed too hard
    main dealer had to remove and completly strip the box to fix or to replace as they would probably not know how to do it and it was not a documented repair
    I could fix without stripping and without removing the box in just under an hour
    ( it was complicated as you could not see what needed to be done and had to be done by feel) 
    Made me lots of £100s 
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