Garage has aquired car in a misleading way!

Ditzy_Mitzy

Ibrahim5 said:

It's a bit like a cut & shut car. Theoretically it could be OK but it normally isn't. Either someone has had the engine in pieces and tried to put it back together or they have thrown an unknown engine in. I wouldn't want either.

Sticking in a recon engine, or indeed remanufacturing the existing one, is nothing like a cut and shut, which if done improperly can compromise the integrity of the car's body.  Changing the engine is routine work for a motor engineer and is quite commonly done.  There are loads of cars running around on second or even third new engines, it's a way of extending the life of a vehicle.  

motorguy

Ibrahim5 said:

It doesn't bother me. It's just sad when someone like the OP believes what they have been told. I am just older and wiser, I guess.

"She took it to a local garage & was told it would cost about £4,000 to get it fixed & it wasn’t worth it" - what part of that wasnt true?

" She needed a car to get to work" - did she have the time and luxury to wait six months for another engine to turn up?

Herzlos

Ibrahim5 said:

It doesn't bother me. It's just sad when someone like the OP believes what they have been told. I am just older and wiser, I guess.

Yet you're consistently wrong when it comes to giving advice, so I don't think anyone is worried about the correct advice making you sad.

Ibrahim5

It's really funny. People in the motor trade don't understand what honest means. She was told her car was worthless scrap. Why didn't they say they would try and mend it or source another engine? Why tell her a load of lies?

motorguy

Ibrahim5 said:

It's really funny. People in the motor trade don't understand what honest means. She was told her car was worthless scrap. Why didn't they say they would try and mend it or source another engine? Why tell her a load of lies?

I think you're the one with the lack of understanding and comprehension. 

They did not say it was worthless scrap.  It was uneconomical for her to have the engine rebuilt.

She didnt have the luxury of waiting 6 months for a suitable engine to appear on the second hand market as she needed a car to get to work.

Insurance companies write cars off all the time that are uneconomical for them to repair - however they're usually bought up by people who are happy to work at them over an extended timeframe and source parts as they become available.

Ditzy_Mitzy

Ibrahim5 said:

It's really funny. People in the motor trade don't understand what honest means. She was told her car was worthless scrap. Why didn't they say they would try and mend it or source another engine? Why tell her a load of lies?

They did offer to mend it, and possibly obtain a replacement engine; the problem was that the OP's girlfriend wasn't prepared to pay for them to do so.

dipsomaniac

motorguy said:

dipsomaniac said:

motorguy said:

dipsomaniac said:

Grumpy_chap said:

dipsomaniac said:

Lol. You were obviously a lot more honest than the traders I have experienced

This might surprise you, but my experience is that most Motor Traders are not Arthur Daley types.

However, the Dealers do need to put up with unscrupulous members of the public not telling them everything

How many car auctions have you been to? The whole point of car auctions is that they are sold as seen to people that know the risks

How many have you been to?  How many cars have you bought?  50? 100?  How well do you know auctions?

Buyers can still object to the car not being as described if there is serious faults.  Depends on the car of course.  If its some couple of hundred £ banger nobody will care but something up the money with a serious fault and the buyer could easily dig their heels in.  At the auction we used, they sold a lot of stuff as "sold with a test drive".  Major fault and the buyer didnt take it.

The "gold card" buyers could also get their money back pretty much on a whim so if they bought a car that you'd put in with an undeclared fault they'd just not take it end of.  They bought that much stuff the auction house definitely wasnt going to offend them.

Around 100.  

You've bought 100 cars at auction??

Hahahahahahahahahaha.

Putting words in my mouth again.  You asked how many auctions I have been to.  Answer around 100.  Cars bought approx 20

motorguy

dipsomaniac said:

motorguy said:

dipsomaniac said:

motorguy said:

dipsomaniac said:

Grumpy_chap said:

dipsomaniac said:

Lol. You were obviously a lot more honest than the traders I have experienced

This might surprise you, but my experience is that most Motor Traders are not Arthur Daley types.

However, the Dealers do need to put up with unscrupulous members of the public not telling them everything

How many car auctions have you been to? The whole point of car auctions is that they are sold as seen to people that know the risks

How many have you been to?  How many cars have you bought?  50? 100?  How well do you know auctions?

Buyers can still object to the car not being as described if there is serious faults.  Depends on the car of course.  If its some couple of hundred £ banger nobody will care but something up the money with a serious fault and the buyer could easily dig their heels in.  At the auction we used, they sold a lot of stuff as "sold with a test drive".  Major fault and the buyer didnt take it.

The "gold card" buyers could also get their money back pretty much on a whim so if they bought a car that you'd put in with an undeclared fault they'd just not take it end of.  They bought that much stuff the auction house definitely wasnt going to offend them.

Around 100.  

You've bought 100 cars at auction??

Hahahahahahahahahaha.

Putting words in my mouth again.  You asked how many auctions I have been to.  Answer around 100.  Cars bought approx 20

Re-read what i said.  I asked "How many cars have you bought?  50? 100? "

Irrespective, my point still stands, people do have rights if they buy from auction.  

Its not just as black and white as you portray.  There are very many shades of grey and nuances.   Other people have said the same on here and support that view.

dipsomaniac

motorguy said:

dipsomaniac said:

Grumpy_chap said:

dipsomaniac said:

Lol. You were obviously a lot more honest than the traders I have experienced

This might surprise you, but my experience is that most Motor Traders are not Arthur Daley types.

However, the Dealers do need to put up with unscrupulous members of the public not telling them everything

How many car auctions have you been to? The whole point of car auctions is that they are sold as seen to people that know the risks

How many have you been to?  How many cars have you bought?  50? 100?  How well do you know auctions?

Buyers can still object to the car not being as described if there is serious faults.  Depends on the car of course.  If its some couple of hundred £ banger nobody will care but something up the money with a serious fault and the buyer could easily dig their heels in.  At the auction we used, they sold a lot of stuff as "sold with a test drive".  Major fault and the buyer didnt take it.

The "gold card" buyers could also get their money back pretty much on a whim so if they bought a car that you'd put in with an undeclared fault they'd just not take it end of.  They bought that much stuff the auction house definitely wasnt going to offend them.

Re-read what you wrote. The first question you asked was 'how many have you been to' that is the first question I answered. 

I haven't been to a auction for 10 years so am assuming buyers have a lot more protection these days judging by what you are saying.  

10 years ago the vast majority of cars were sold as seen.  A few were sold with a test drive or no major faults.  Auctions were the vehicle  traders used to get rid of faulty/un- desirable cars.

jimjames

Ibrahim5 said:

It's really funny. People in the motor trade don't understand what honest means. She was told her car was worthless scrap. Why didn't they say they would try and mend it or source another engine? Why tell her a load of lies?

Maybe it was at that point? Things change over time including vehicle values as I posted before. It doesn't mean they lied.