Money Moral Dilemma: Should my friend split the speeding fine I got?

Tim11111000111

In the vast majority of cases, I would say you were driving and therefore you need to take full responsibility for your actions. But I appreciate peer pressure is real and if your friend was actively encouraging you to go faster than you would have done otherwise, then maybe they share some of the (moral) guilt (legally it is 100% on you). 

Whether or not is a sensible move for your friendship to raise this point is a separate question that I will leave well alone.

jegs

Yeah Right  !!!!!!!    The driver has the sole responsibility for the vehicle, how it is driven, where it is parked etc. etc.   Therefore the responsibility is yours and yours alone.....own it ........pay up....and drive on.    The next thing you will be asking is..............that your passenger takes half the penalty points you also received.  Again,,,,,Yeah Right !!!!

tain

I absolutely hate the folk who come into these with the 'this isn't a moral dilemma' every week.

But

**THIS**

is not a moral dilemma.

Unless the friend was holding a gun to your head or pushing your leg on the accelerator, you are 100% to blame. If you can't accept that blame, don't drive. In fact, don't drive at all if you can't follow the speed limits. 

Car_54

jegs said:

Yeah Right  !!!!!!!    The driver has the sole responsibility for the vehicle, how it is driven, where it is parked etc. etc.   Therefore the responsibility is yours and yours alone.....own it ........pay up....and drive on.    The next thing you will be asking is..............that your passenger takes half the penalty points you also received.  Again,,,,,Yeah Right !!!!

There are no penalty points - this wasn't in the UK.

ginger_chocolate

I haven't seen them all, but does this win the award for most bizarre/bl**ding obvious money moral dilemma yet?

NBLondon

Thrugelmir said:

MSE_Kelvin said:

Of course speeding is wrong and I feel bad for doing it, 

Is MSE in essence suggesting that it's now acceptable to speed by posting this a moral dilemma?  

No - that's not the dilemma.

The question is whether the driver should ask the passenger to contribute to the fine.  Most people here seem to be of the opinion that the answer is "No" and the driver is totally responsible for the decision to exceed the speed limit irrespective of any pressure from the passenger.

Perhaps the learning point is that if the passenger is pressuring for excess speed, the driver should stop and get a written and notarised agreement about sharing any fines before they are incurred...

honestcove

I’d say yes as it’s part of the joint holiday cost of travelling together and agreeing to split the bill.

sammyjammy

oldagetraveller1 said:

Why is it a "moral dilemma"?

Nothing to do with a "friend". Driver in control of the vehicle and the speed at which it was travelling, not the "friend".

Pay up. Or as it was abroad, no mention of where, don't pay up if morality is not an issue.

As long as you never want to visit that country again (if its Italy for example)

Bluey87

My friend once ran over and killed a cow and so he was given a 5 year sentence for cow murder of which I accepted half the sentence. I must add I wasn’t actually there but I have eaten a beef burger before. 

I also wait at the barriers at car parks and pay for peoples parking because I have once parked in a car park. 

It’s only fair. 

JayD

You were the driver, you chose to speed, you pay the fine.