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Diagnostic Fee - Fair?
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Robbo66 said:Ibrahim5 said:There weren't 'diagnostic' fees in the 1970s. They were only introduced when cars had computers on them. The cars in those days didn't have screens so the data had to be transferred across to something with a screen to display data. Any basic PC or phone is capable. Just need an interface. As long as it transmits data it's fine. Even if it only costs £3.95. The software is often free or very cheap. There was never any need for expensive computers or large fees to use them. All invented by auto industry to make money. Just talking to people you realise how successful they have been. People really are convinced that they are too complicated even though they use computers everyday without fear.0
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Robbo66 said:Ibrahim5 said:There weren't 'diagnostic' fees in the 1970s. They were only introduced when cars had computers on them. The cars in those days didn't have screens so the data had to be transferred across to something with a screen to display data. Any basic PC or phone is capable. Just need an interface. As long as it transmits data it's fine. Even if it only costs £3.95. The software is often free or very cheap. There was never any need for expensive computers or large fees to use them. All invented by auto industry to make money. Just talking to people you realise how successful they have been. People really are convinced that they are too complicated even though they use computers everyday without fear.
Hes living in cloud cuckoo land.
If i've a simple fault i'll fix it myself. If i've a more complex fault or maintence thats required, i've a great indy up the road. If i take the car to a main dealer i know i will be charged accordingly. The service they offer is not "free".1 -
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motorguy said:Robbo66 said:Ibrahim5 said:There weren't 'diagnostic' fees in the 1970s. They were only introduced when cars had computers on them. The cars in those days didn't have screens so the data had to be transferred across to something with a screen to display data. Any basic PC or phone is capable. Just need an interface. As long as it transmits data it's fine. Even if it only costs £3.95. The software is often free or very cheap. There was never any need for expensive computers or large fees to use them. All invented by auto industry to make money. Just talking to people you realise how successful they have been. People really are convinced that they are too complicated even though they use computers everyday without fear.
Hes living in cloud cuckoo land.
If i've a simple fault i'll fix it myself. If i've a more complex fault or maintence thats required, i've a great indy up the road. If i take the car to a main dealer i know i will be charged accordingly. The service they offer is not "free".0 -
Ibrahim5 said:
I'd quite like you to quote some free proper car diagnostic software. Not software that'll just read the simple OBDII codes. Software that'll do the lot including resetting fault lights and service lights.
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Phantom151 said:Ibrahim5 said:
I'd quite like you to quote some free proper car diagnostic software. Not software that'll just read the simple OBDII codes. Software that'll do the lot including resetting fault lights and service lights.0 -
Torque lite and the cheap torque pro is normally used with the £3.95 Bluetooth adapter. Never used it personally though.0
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Ibrahim5 said:Torque lite and the cheap torque pro is normally used with the £3.95 Bluetooth adapter. Never used it personally though.
Relying on them as a professional business? No, not at all.
But you know that, you just cant admit it.0 -
Ibrahim5 said:Phantom151 said:Ibrahim5 said:
I'd quite like you to quote some free proper car diagnostic software. Not software that'll just read the simple OBDII codes. Software that'll do the lot including resetting fault lights and service lights.
So that's a no on the free diagnostic software then?
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I was actually saying that there is lots of free software not specifically car diagnostic software. I have used VAGCOM and FORScan which are both free. Not sure of all the brand's because I have never owned all the brand's. Sometimes you have to pay for certain functionality but I have never needed to.0
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