House purchase, relatives items left in, now involving solicitor

getmore4less

Edi30 said:

Hi everyone so background is my grandmother died and I along with my aunt were both beneficiaries of the will 50:50 including the house to which I used a personal loan to pay her off,

no mortgage involved that made it easier......

getmore4less said:

You should ask for an inventory of all the things she wants back that she thinks are in the house.

How did you know what was hers and what was grans?

One issue here is the executor messed up they should have sold the house from the estate with vacant possession all the stuff remove

Edi30 said:

Can’t use mirror film, would look odd as there 13ft wide windows. 

Regarding the executor she was the executor of the will, and the house contracts were shown as vacant possession, obviously excluding my things. 

The house was sold at slightly under market value but I obviously only had to pay half of it but it need about £50,000 spending on it so haven’t got a cheap house really. And the behaviour of someone lonely.. that’s her own fault for being the selfish and greedy person she is. 

Should have refused to exchange till all the stuff was gone.

Aunt getting her money would have been motivation for her to get her stuff.

You let go of your major card in this saga.

Sounds like you may have moved in before you bought the place.......

When did you move in because the property became an asset of the grans estate, should have only moved in once you had bought it of the estate.

Were you paying te estate rent if you moved in?

Moving in with agreement of the executor would have been possible but sounds like that was not given as they wanted you out

Edi30 said:

Also as a side question is her house over looks ours and every time we look she’s watching us and people who come round etc, 
.........
so past 6 months house has been mine and my partners.

You have had 6 months where every time you caught her looking you could have dumped some of her stuff on her with a photo.
How far is the walk from your door to the boundary of her property?

You are making this a lot harder than it needs to be.

GDB2222

I’m looking forward to the next thread about how much the court case is costing. 

sheramber

When you see her looking wave and shout 'HI, auntie' 

My son lives in a quiet crescent but keeps his vertical blinds slanted or closed to avoid passersby - namely children- looking in. 

You want a solution that is not going to happen. Nobody can stop her watching you but if you acknowledge it it will lose its value to her. She thinks she is not being seen so show her you can see her and let her think you don't care.

if her stuff is not enough of an annoyance for you to pay to get it moved then you are at stalemate. She is not going to give in as she obviously doesn't need the stuff so it is no skin off her nose to leave it there. Pay to get it moved and get rid of her hold over you and your life.

wilfred30

GDB2222 said:

I’m looking forward to the next thread about how much the court case is costing. 

Is anyone else getting to the point in this ridiculous thread who's now hoping that the auntie sues and wins 

GDB2222

wilfred30 said:

GDB2222 said:

I’m looking forward to the next thread about how much the court case is costing. 

Is anyone else getting to the point in this ridiculous thread who's now hoping that the auntie sues and wins 

To win the case, the OP would need to comply with the rules set out in The Torts (Interference with Goods) Act 1977. She seems unwilling to do that, which is hardly surprising, as it is far, far more work than handing the stuff over to Auntie. She has been advised to do that, but refuses. 

So, she is setting herself up to lose.

 It’s hard to understand, really.

Niv

TripleH said:

Edi30, you need to act with deadlines now.

A polite letter giving a calendar month for her to arrange collection of the belongings otherwise you will assume they are not required and dispose of them.

Be to the point, state specific dates and times. You may have to let her in the property but you can escort her.

State she needs to arrange and pay for collection.

This does not sound like the half hour job I thought it would be. I would also take photographs to show they are worthless as you suggest. If however there looks to be anything of value (financial or sentimental) take it over now to show you are reasonable.

Any communication on this should be in writing. Anything you agree verbally send a letter confirming in writing.

You are going to (sadly) most likely have to pay something be it to dispose of the items yourself. But you need to set a timetable to do this otherwise it will become a millstone round your neck.

Except disposing of them would be more work than just taking them round her house.

OP just needs to give their head a wobble and take the stuff over there. It is beyond ridiculous.

RogerBareford

Edi30 said:

I know she looks because neighbors have seen her watching and have commented that it’s not normal behaviour for someone who’s late 60s and each time we talk to somone on the driveway she look then when we look back hides behind a tree. As for her and her mum being close they weren’t, more just tolerated each other. 

The reason I’m not spending any money moving her stuff is simply the fact she cost me a fortune for no reason and my money is better spent on my son and paying bills as I’m the only income at the moment. 

As far as my duty to her belongings are I told her to collect them, she didn’t and refused to pay to have them collected so iv done my bit, her problem if she won’t pay someone, (she’s not poor at all, and has excess of £200,000 saved) but she is tight. 

So your mum "just tolerated" her and yet left half the house to her in the will...

It just sounds like you enjoy making this situation difficult and enjoy the drama because your only concerned about what she can actually do and ignore all the easy solutions people have posted.

She lives right next to you so just take the stuff round bit by bit and then it's done!.

If she caused that much trouble then why did you bother buying the house? You should have just sold the place and bought somewhere else and not a house right next to her!

thegreenone

My comment about leaving stuff in the rain was slightly in jest, in that the wet weather would hinder auntie rather than ruin her stuff.

Perhaps the OP could take the Hermes approach (no, not flinging stuff over the wall or leaving them in the bin) but bag up Auntie's stuff, number the bags, leave on doorstep, knock on door and step back.  Take photo of Auntie with Bag No 1.  Rinse and repeat.  OP has full record of Auntie receiving her stuff.

GDB2222

To be honest, I feel sorry for Auntie.

Definite

OP, it appears that you aren’t blameless in this, in fact it sounds like Aunty is the injured party here, what with you not paying rent and throwing out her stuff.