Wet electric heating, economy 7 nightmare

QrizB

bunny73 said:

QrizB said:

bunny73 said:

I’ll see what good energy say about the meter and the second standing charge.

That explains the high rates; Good energy are one of the three "deep green" suppliers that are exempt from the Ofgem cap.

I suspect you're on one of their regular E7 tariffs.

Your photos show a single meter; are you certain that you're paying two standing charges? If you are, there should be two meter serial numbers listed on your bill. Where is the other one?

I am charged for two standing charges on my bill. One for the day and night readings and another for a reading that doesn’t change, it stays at 00001. These are all from the one meter, I access it by pressing a button on the front of the meter. There is only one meter number on the bill though, but they quote it twice?

Curiouser and curiouser. Does your bill have two MPANs or only one?

And what is the name of your tariff?

If we can't sort this out you might need to phone them up and ask!

bunny73

I am trying to add pics of the bill but it won’t let me!

Gerry1

Is there mains gas in the nearby area, or are you in a village miles from the nearest main?  It would be well worth getting a supply, even if it costs £thousands and/or needs a mortgage top up.  Roughly a quarter or a fifth of the kWh price, and it would increase the value of your property and make it easier to sell.  It really would be a no brainer unless it's physically impossible.

You could switch off the electric boiler and just use an oil filled radiator, but you might well then have problems with damp, condensation and mould growth.  Fitting TRVs and turning them down low might be a safer option.

Realistically if you can't get gas then HHR NSHs are the way to go, perhaps with panel heaters instead in the bedroom used for sleeping.

If you fancy a (very) longshot for the lottery, you could try switching to British Gas's Zero Fixed Oct 22 (about 20p/kWh day, 10p/kWh night, no standing charge, no exit fee) or similar bargain tariff (e.g. Simply Fixed Energy Sep 23).  It must be via Chat, you'd need to keep the transcript and be very persistent: the status of these tariffs is strangely indeterminate, neither definitely available nor definitely not available for new supply.  But several forumites have been successful including yours truly, some quite recently.

bunny73

QrizB said:

bunny73 said:

QrizB said:

bunny73 said:

I’ll see what good energy say about the meter and the second standing charge.

That explains the high rates; Good energy are one of the three "deep green" suppliers that are exempt from the Ofgem cap.

I suspect you're on one of their regular E7 tariffs.

Your photos show a single meter; are you certain that you're paying two standing charges? If you are, there should be two meter serial numbers listed on your bill. Where is the other one?

I am charged for two standing charges on my bill. One for the day and night readings and another for a reading that doesn’t change, it stays at 00001. These are all from the one meter, I access it by pressing a button on the front of the meter. There is only one meter number on the bill though, but they quote it twice?

Curiouser and curiouser. Does your bill have two MPANs or only one?

And what is the name of your tariff?

If we can't sort this out you might need to phone them up and ask!

Is the MPAN the number on the front of the meter, as this is same as on the bill? There is a pic further back in this thread…

bunny73

It’s good energy standard Ed, green variable.

bunny73

DD not Ed 

QrizB

Here's a thread from someone else with the same sort of meter, that gives a bit of explanation of the various displays:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6222425/issues-with-electricity-bill-complex-meter

Gerry1

Some background reading which may or may not be relevant.

Restricted Meter Good Practice Guide

Ofgem: RHT must offer single rate

Restricted meters order explanatory note

Dynamic Teleswitch Meters 1 – Nothing Untoward

A Dynamic Teleswitch Update – Successful Switch!

Note the type of meter in the last two links by @[Deleted User].

Lmc74

By way of comparison if it helps my wet electric heating is in a 70 sq meter 3 bed semi. I do limit the use and have a log burner in living room but I pay £120 a month all year round. I think this would cover at least 3 hours of heating being on in winter months but no hot water. It's a curse not having gas.

bunny73

There are two MPAN numbers, I’ve just found them.