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  • IloveElephants
    IloveElephants Posts: 799 Forumite
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    Paras 13 and 15 refer to IPC CoP but the claimant (UKPC) are BPA AoS members  -  you have correctly used BPA for exhibits

    (13.The IPC guidelines state that text on signage....)

    (15.The IPC guidelines (14) state...)
    Hi Grandad, thanks for your reply, apologies for the delay in responding, 

    Shall I remove paragraph 13 and 15 then? As UKPC are BPA AoS members what paragraph shall I put to replace my existing wording? 

    As for the exhibits I am happy I have the correct ones at least. 


    Thanks once again. 

  • IloveElephants
    IloveElephants Posts: 799 Forumite
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    Yes but tweak the paragraph near the start that says the car park is 'not known to me' otherwise the points conflict.
    Hi Coupon-mad, thanks for your reply,


    1.       The car park for (location) is not known to me and had never been visited prior. The claim refers to an incident involving vehicle (Reg number) on 1st July 2018 at the location of (Add location).

    Shall I mention that I have never visited the carpark prior and leave it at that?


    Thank you 


  • IloveElephants
    IloveElephants Posts: 799 Forumite
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    Paras 13 and 15 refer to IPC CoP but the claimant (UKPC) are BPA AoS members  -  you have correctly used BPA for exhibits

    (13.The IPC guidelines state that text on signage....)

    (15.The IPC guidelines (14) state...)
    Hi Grandad, thanks for your reply, apologies for the delay in responding, 

    Shall I remove paragraph 13 and 15 then? As UKPC are BPA AoS members what paragraph shall I put to replace my existing wording? 

    As for the exhibits I am happy I have the correct ones at least. 


    Thanks once again. 

    Hi, if anyone could kindly help me what quote I need to insert in paragraph 13 and 15? Thank you, 

    I have still not received a time for my hearing, I will message the court again, I hope to visit my grandparents and spend time with them so hope the dates do not clash.
  • Le_Kirk
    Le_Kirk Posts: 24,684 Forumite
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    I thought that @1505grandad had explained it quite succinctly, remove references to IPC, look up the BPA Code of Practice and use the wording from there about text on signs.
  • Le_Kirk said:
    I thought that @1505grandad had explained it quite succinctly, remove references to IPC, look up the BPA Code of Practice and use the wording from there about text on signs.
    Hi Le Kirk,

    Yes he did, I just wanted to make sure I am clear on his instructions. Thanks Le Kirk for confirming, 
  • Hi, please review my paragraph 13 and 15, I have made reference to the BPA Guidelines:

    13. The BPA states that text on signage should “make it easy for them to find out what your terms and conditions are.” “The wording you include on your specific parking terms signage is your decision. However, you should try to use plain and intelligible language in all your signs and information.” In this case the carpark had not made clear to park within marked bays upon entrance or in a large format, in most cases this carpark is known to flood (see Exhibit below) and markings are not visible at all times. The text on the signage, particularly that which refers to ‘contractual terms’ and a ‘parking charge’ is very small. This, coupled with the fact that the sign is mounted directly opposite where the defendant parked gives the impression this is a parking bay.

    15. The BPA guidelines state “You must place signs containing the specific parking terms throughout the site, so that drivers are given the chance to read them at the time of parking or leaving their vehicle” The fact that there is no signage around this area and that it is known that other motorists use this area as a legitimate parking bay (see Exhibit HP2), I would question that the Claimant is deliberately obscuring this fact to generate spurious Parking Charge Notices solely for financial gain


    Thank you,





  • IloveElephants
    IloveElephants Posts: 799 Forumite
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    edited 19 June 2022 at 5:14PM
    Finally I receive an update on this case....................


    Hi everyone, 

    I received a letter from the local court in my city on Friday 17th June. I will scan them below:




    The next page mentions the hearing has been allocated 1 hour court time and it being Remote. I will upload that




  • I have also received a stapled 2 page document "Instructions in Small claims track cases" 


  • Good morning everyone, I have not seen the WS from the claimant for this case? Before I prepare my WS should I see what their arguments are? Thank you to everyone
  • Le_Kirk
    Le_Kirk Posts: 24,684 Forumite
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    It is always good to see the claimant's WS before submitting yours but do NOT miss the deadline!  It is also good, reading the court order, to see an "on the ball" judge.
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