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Liverpool Airport VCS PCN: Some questions re: Defence

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  • Thank you again, @KeithP.
    By evidence I presume you mean the exhibits attached to the WS? If so, that's all sorted.
    I'd forgotten about costs - something to look at tomorrow.
  • VeryOldBailey
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    I've now received the Claimant's WS. In it they cite six cases or pieces of legislation to support their claim, sometimes quoting paragraphs, sometimes simply summarising. Transcripts of these cases do not appear in their exhibits.

    This in contrast to the advice given in this forum to include full transcripts of cases and or legislation (e.g. in my case Chevalier-Firescu v Ashfords, BP v Crosby, Excel v Wilkinson, etc.).

    I am perfectly willing to compile and print a Parking Charge equivalent to War & Peace if it serves the purposes of my case but equally loth to waste time and effort if it is unnecessary.

    What advice would you give me?
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 1 May 2022 at 5:26PM
    So your WS trumps theirs?  Good.

    Anything in their so-called evidence you want to add to your WS to debunk it? 

    Things like a heavily redacted landowner authority, or undated or old signage photos and a heavy reliance on stock images and an unverified Google Earth mock up with dots on it that intends to suggest there are more signs than there really were...

    Go through it with a fine tooth comb.

    Have they misquoted out of context from the words of Roch LJ in Vine v Waltham Forest?  If so, search the forum to find what's been said umpteen hundred times over the years, to debunk that.  Miss Vine won. She was held not to have seen the signs and parking firms cherry pick words from the losing case, making it sound like it was the finding of Lord Roch.
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  • john3994
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    @VeryOldBailey, how are they forming their case especially around the PoFA and the transfer of liability to you as the keeper.

    As I understand it, the presence of a byelaw means statutory control is in place which in turn means it isn't relevant land within the PoFA?
  • Fruitcake
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    Well done, and thanks for providing us with such a detailed court report.
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  • Umkomaas
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    Great result, great report, well done. 👍. Thank you for letting us know. Getting feedback is important to us in knowing how Judges are currently thinking, and gives us further motivation to continue fighting this scourge. 

    ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST. 
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • Coupon-mad
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    Brilliant news - very well done you!
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