Private permit dropped from windscreen- accept or decline 20 pounds reduced fine.

Dandytf

hi mser's
my private residential permit dropped from windscreen I assume shortly after driving latest Dec' purchased EV.
I appealed yet my blue badge and photo of parking permit has declined to withdraw penalty due to pass not being displayed.

I'm furious as I purchased this flat 2009 years ahead of PCN being brought in.
Is there any further Appeal route if possible.

t.i.a.

Coupon-mad

Yes, PLAN A as described in the NEWBIES thread.  Always try that before appealing.  See my signature for where to click on the link at the top of the page to get back a step and read the NEWBIES thread.

Which PPC infests your home car park?

D_P_Dance

Have you read these?

http://parking-prankster.blogspot.com/2016/11/residential-parking.html

https://forums.landlordzone.co.uk/forum/residential-letting-questions/1053920-private-parking-companies

https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/324523-ukpc-liable-for-trespass-success/

Have you googleed "primacy of contract"and read other residential threads?  Have you complained to your MP?

Dandytf

Coupon-mad said:

Yes, PLAN A as described in the NEWBIES thread.  Always try that before appealing.  See my signature for where to click on the link at the top of the page to get back a step and read the NEWBIES thread.

Which PPC infests your home car park?

PPC - please explain as it could be factor driven.

thanks

Coupon-mad

All acronyms are also explained in the NEWBIES thread.  Newbies are encouraged to read it first, before posting, as it tells you what to do and how, with templates.

Saves us drowning on threads.

KeithP

Dandytf said:

Coupon-mad said:

Yes, PLAN A as described in the NEWBIES thread.  Always try that before appealing.  See my signature for where to click on the link at the top of the page to get back a step and read the NEWBIES thread.

Which PPC infests your home car park?

PPC - please explain as it could be factor driven.

PPC = Private Parking Company.

You mention 'factor driven'. Are you in Scotland?

D_P_Dance

Decline, it almost certainly is invalid as your lease/AST is likely to trump it.   Read these, google "primacy of contract", read other residential threads ,  and, other residential threads, and complain to your MP>

http://parking-prankster.blogspot.com/2016/11/residential-parking.html

https://forums.landlordzone.co.uk/forum/residential-letting-questions/1053920-private-parking-companies

https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/324523-ukpc-liable-for-trespass-success/ 

Dandytf

KeithP said:

Dandytf said:

Coupon-mad said:

Yes, PLAN A as described in the NEWBIES thread.  Always try that before appealing.  See my signature for where to click on the link at the top of the page to get back a step and read the NEWBIES thread.

Which PPC infests your home car park?

PPC - please explain as it could be factor driven.

PPC = Private Parking Company.

You mention 'factor driven'. Are you in Scotland?

yes Scotland thanks as I mentioned in appeal  I purchased flat 2009,pcn were quite a few years later due to non residents taking up private spaces.

Redx

Dandytf said:

KeithP said:

Dandytf said:

Coupon-mad said:

Yes, PLAN A as described in the NEWBIES thread.  Always try that before appealing.  See my signature for where to click on the link at the top of the page to get back a step and read the NEWBIES thread.

Which PPC infests your home car park?

PPC - please explain as it could be factor driven.

PPC = Private Parking Company.

You mention 'factor driven'. Are you in Scotland?

yes Scotland thanks as I mentioned in appeal  I purchased flat 2009,pcn were quite a few years later due to non residents taking up private spaces.

So complain to the management company , get it cancelled , your vehicle should be on a whitelist , exempt anyway , as a resident , check what your contract or lease says about displaying a permit , or doesn't say

Which parking company ?

Coupon-mad

If you decide not to pay the £20 nothing will happen because you are in Scotland and you don't yet have the Keeper Liability law that we have in England.

However, that power for PPCs is coming into Scotland this year (won't be retrospective).  Things will be more difficult for people against PPCs after that, in Scotland, and some might start trying Scottish court claims.

Be aware not to fall foul of PPCs in future but you can ignore this one, apart from complaining to the factor/owner and telling them you wish to 'opt out' YOUR space from the thug enforcement.

There is NO FAIR APPEAL until the Governments set up the promised, independent Single Appeals Service.

Get yourself opted out of this 'enforcement' asap.  You don't have to show a permit for your space.

Which PPC?

Dandytf

@Coupon-mad

Excel Parking.
I've mistakenly gone past 20 pounds offer the  ppc website has reverted to 100 pounds.

thanks