Holiday going ahead but country now wont allow unvaccinated - am I eligible for a refund/free change

Phantom151

You are going to struggle to be able to travel without a vaccination or medical exemption for probably years to come. I also don't think you'll get a refund without a medical exemption as it would be your choice not to travel.

MiserlyMartin

Covid 19 is now just a cold, and the pandemic is virtually over as we all get herd immunity to this cold. Restrictions and even testing are all ramping down. It's now time to return to normal and live with it - not lockdown and restrict peoples movement every 5 minutes. That makes vaccinations (which only last 6 months before the immunity wanes anyway) irrelevant to this discussion.

elsien

Vaccination is not irrelevant to the discussion if it’s  a requirement for entry to the countries the OP wishes to travel to. 

You may have the view that it’s time for everything to return to normal but governments around the world do not agree as yet, hence the impact on the OPs travel  plans. 

soolin

MiserlyMartin said:

Covid 19 is now just a cold, and the pandemic is virtually over as we all get herd immunity to this cold. Restrictions and even testing are all ramping down. It's now time to return to normal and live with it - not lockdown and restrict peoples movement every 5 minutes. That makes vaccinations (which only last 6 months before the immunity wanes anyway) irrelevant to this discussion.

I don’t follow your argument that vaccinations are irrelevant , how did you come to that conclusion? Children are still being vaccinated against polio which has all but disappeared in the West and when I travelled to Africa I had vaccinations for diseases I’ve never even heard of. 

I do agree that this is now hopefully burning itself out, but I imagine a scenario where I get my Covid jab every year along side my flu one. This is especially important with many countries who won’t have much herd immunity or antibodies, either through a policy of isolation or being unable to vaccinate much of their population - and not willing to let us in without a jab. 

lisyloo

MiserlyMartin said:

Covid 19 is now just a cold, and the pandemic is virtually over as we all get herd immunity to this cold. Restrictions and even testing are all ramping down. It's now time to return to normal and live with it - not lockdown and restrict peoples movement every 5 minutes. That makes vaccinations (which only last 6 months before the immunity wanes anyway) irrelevant to this discussion.

Absolutely not wrt foreign travel.
I am booked to the Philippines, they are completely CLOSED to tourism.
a million miles off what you described.

vaccines are relevant to most other countries.

onashoestring

MiserlyMartin said:

Covid 19 is now just a cold, and the pandemic is virtually over as we all get herd immunity to this cold. Restrictions and even testing are all ramping down. It's now time to return to normal and live with it - not lockdown and restrict peoples movement every 5 minutes. That makes vaccinations (which only last 6 months before the immunity wanes anyway) irrelevant to this discussion.

Not according to Heathrow’s boss - https://www.bbc.com/news/business-59950633

Phantom151

MiserlyMartin said:

Covid 19 is now just a cold, and the pandemic is virtually over as we all get herd immunity to this cold. Restrictions and even testing are all ramping down. It's now time to return to normal and live with it - not lockdown and restrict peoples movement every 5 minutes. That makes vaccinations (which only last 6 months before the immunity wanes anyway) irrelevant to this discussion.

Quick, let the scientists know I'm sure they'll be greatful for your input!

Testing is not ramping down and restrictions are increasing in many prts of the world. Travel restrictions are going to be with us for many years to come so just get the jab already if you want to go out of the country.

lisyloo

Not just travel, but we are already seeing people could lose their jobs and entitlement to sick pay.
I think an NHS tax is possible (and don’t forget popular) in future - just as we tax smokers, drinkers etc.

so anyone who just hasn’t got round to it, too busy, too lazy is just mad not to get started with this.

bargainbetty

MiserlyMartin said:

Covid 19 is now just a cold, and the pandemic is virtually over as we all get herd immunity to this cold. Restrictions and even testing are all ramping down. It's now time to return to normal and live with it - not lockdown and restrict peoples movement every 5 minutes. That makes vaccinations (which only last 6 months before the immunity wanes anyway) irrelevant to this discussion.

I tested positive on 1st December. I am still coughing hard enough to retch on a daily basis thanks to long Covid. I am lucky, I was vaccinated so I didn't end up in hospital. It's certainly not just a cold. 

Literally everything you said is wrong in global terms. Many countries are still having extreme problems and vaccination is what is going to help get to the levels of immunity where the new variants are less common. Vaccines help us get back to normal, so having them will help avoid restrictions. 

eskbanker

If only there was a word to describe the sort of poster who jumps onto threads and posts something controversial to provoke a reaction - don't feed him....