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Have I been "blacklisted" from a job? Seeking reference for a new one (police)

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  • Undervalued
    Undervalued Posts: 9,593 Forumite
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    qwertyK said:
    qwertyK said:
    But why would I give notice to a job which was part time and the notice would have meant completing it anyway? 


    Simply, because you signed a contract saying you would. Or you may not have, seeing as you cannot find the contract. But it seems likely.
    Keeping your word matters to some more than others.
    No I don’t recall signing any contract and neither does my colleague who joined at the same time as me. 
    I don’t recall if there actually even was a notice period given it was a part time job. 
    Had I known this I might have done things differently but my manager didn’t say I had a notice period to work etc. 
    Doesn't matter. By turning up, working and getting paid you have agreed to the firm's terms of employment regardless of whether they were signed or even given to you in writing. 

    If you have been employed for a month or more, the legal default is that you have to give a week's notice unless your contract requires more. Unlike the notice the employer would have to give you, the notice you are obliged to give them does not increase with years or service - unless contractually agreed. Full time or part time makes no difference to this.

    So at the very least you were obliged to give them a week's notice, which it seems you failed to do.

    If they suffered any quantifiable financial loss as a result of your breach of contract they could sue you for their losses. It doesn't happen all that often but if you upset them enough they have potentially six years to get around to doing so!
  • qwertyK
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    edited 20 December 2021 at 2:32PM
    Just spoken to my other colleague who I joined with.
    Tells me a full time staff member got laid off yesterday after taking 3 days off for mental health.
    Disgraceful stuff.
    My colleague was also told to come in to work even though she was really ill and could have had COVID. Once again, disgraceful. 
  • qwertyK
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    qwertyK said:
    qwertyK said:
    But why would I give notice to a job which was part time and the notice would have meant completing it anyway? 


    Simply, because you signed a contract saying you would. Or you may not have, seeing as you cannot find the contract. But it seems likely.
    Keeping your word matters to some more than others.
    No I don’t recall signing any contract and neither does my colleague who joined at the same time as me. 
    I don’t recall if there actually even was a notice period given it was a part time job. 
    Had I known this I might have done things differently but my manager didn’t say I had a notice period to work etc. 
    Doesn't matter. By turning up, working and getting paid you have agreed to the firm's terms of employment regardless of whether they were signed or even given to you in writing. 

    If you have been employed for a month or more, the legal default is that you have to give a week's notice unless your contract requires more. Unlike the notice the employer would have to give you, the notice you are obliged to give them does not increase with years or service - unless contractually agreed. Full time or part time makes no difference to this.

    So at the very least you were obliged to give them a week's notice, which it seems you failed to do.

    If they suffered any quantifiable financial loss as a result of your breach of contract they could sue you for their losses. It doesn't happen all that often but if you upset them enough they have potentially six years to get around to doing so!
    I worked there for a week and the contract was about 3 and half weeks 
  • k3lvc
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    qwertyK said:
    Just spoken to my other colleague who I joined with.
    Tells me a full time staff member got laid off yesterday after taking 3 days off for mental health.
    Disgraceful stuff.
    My colleague was also told to come in to work even though she was really ill and could have had COVID. Once again, disgraceful. 
    Sometimes life's unfair and listening to 2nd hand tales may lead to wrong assumptions

    If the Police is your chosen career then put your energy into achieving/maintaining that rather then the wrongs you see in others. If you don't/can't do that then even if you are successful in the police (and I was albeit after a number of rejections until I showed the necessary maturity in early 20's) your career is likely to be short-lived 
  • Jillanddy said:
    qwertyK said:
    Just spoken to my other colleague who I joined with.
    Tells me a full time staff member got laid off yesterday after taking 3 days off for mental health.
    Disgraceful stuff.
    My colleague was also told to come in to work even though she was really ill and could have had COVID. Once again, disgraceful. 
    If you want a career in the police, you will need to learn that gossip does not constitute evidence. I would be absolutely shocked if your former colleague was aware of the details surrounding another member of staff's health, and even more shocked that they think it appropriate to discuss it with you; and I seriously doubt that any sensible employer would lay someone off for mental health reasons. They may put someone on medical suspension if that was deemed appropriate. The person may have asked for leave, or for time off. It is none of your former colleagues business, and it is certainly none of yours. 

    What is disgraceful here now is that you seem to have adopted a campaign against your former employer, and are repeating gossip and hearsay from someone who has absolutely no place in discussing this with you or anyone else. As for "could have had Covid" - it is really ridiculously simple to check whether one has Covid, so if your former colleague doesn't know how to do that, then perhaps you should direct her the the appropriate guidance. It may come as a shock to you at your tender age, but whilst it is certainly right that anyone who suspects they have Covid should get a test, and isolate in accordance with the guidance, but the rest of the world have been going to work with colds and bugs for decades, and it hasn't killed us yet. You cannot just take time off at the drop of a hat for sniffles. Especially not at your employers busiest time of the year. 

    You no longer work there, and you really need to move on. It was your choice not to work there, you walked out. Your explanation about why you walked out is thin and rather unsustainable - by your own version of events your reaction to perfectly reasonable events at work was over the top, and you don't seem to be able to let that go. You have also insisted that laws have been broken by the former employer when they have not. This is certainly not a mature or balanced approach, and I do wonder if this is how you react to relatively minor life issues, how on earth you might then deal with the stresses and issues in police work, which are actually really much more serious. You cannot go around accusing people of things based on hearsay amd gossip; and you cannot conduct campaigns against those who, in your mind, are in the wrong. 
    Yet the post I made enquiring if the op considered themselves a good fit for the role has been deleted.

  • I'm not taking issue with you, you misunderstand.
    It was clear the op had some issues, I simply put it to them if they felt a good fit for the role of policing, site admin deleted the comment even though it had double figures of thanks and a cop had referred back to the comment as being relevant.
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