Have I been "blacklisted" from a job? Seeking reference for a new one (police)

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Marvel1 said:

arctic_ghost said:

Policing requires a degree of maturity, do you feel your a good fit?

But a manager does not?

It isn't the manager looking to build a police career.

General_Grant

Grumpy_chap said:

References are a funny thing and all I ever look for is the basic facts as to the individual's employment role, dates, etc. to see that matches with what I've been told plus I always ask "would you re-employ?" and that yes/no answer is the only thing I'm really interested in. 

When the reference is from a corporate that don't respond to our request but provide their standard, sanitised response it's usually only verification of facts that can be done as the information is usually insufficient to even infer an answer to the question "would you re-employ?"

I'd imagine that M&S will provide the sanitised reference.

If they replied "no", would you have employed?

At one time I worked for a multi-national which had the policy of never re-employing someone who had resigned because that they showed they were not satisfied with the company as an employer.   Fortunately they did include the explanation when answering the question.

qwertyK

Jillanddy said:

On a slightly different tack, I must say that I'm impressed that the police are recruiting 18 year old disabled employees. Round here someone off that age and medical background would never get a look in.  Some forces are obviously much more forward looking than others.  

I’m not fully disabled . I have scoliosis which wouldn’t stop me from being a police officer. Desk work would actually be worse for me especially if it involved sitting down for a long time .

also 18 is the minimum age to join so there’s no reason as to why they wouldn’t take you. You do a degree apprenticeship scheme now. And having a disability (the one that  affects me more, autism), can actually mean you offer something different to the role 

Marvel1

arctic_ghost said:

Marvel1 said:

arctic_ghost said:

Policing requires a degree of maturity, do you feel your a good fit?

But a manager does not?

It isn't the manager looking to build a police career.

You expect them to be mature or at least professional attitude.

theoretica

The police insist on this reference - so you need to provide it - and hope. 

What I would advise you to do is spend some time reflecting on how you will respond if the police decide that they need to ask you either about the reference or about how short your time at that job was.  I strongly suggest you do not make it a rant about how bad the manager was. 

Merlin139

qwertyK said:

On a seperate issue - payment.
I was accidentally mis-paid around £500 as I said which I have been told not to touch but it's still sitting in my account. Also they haven't paid me today yet I should hvave been. Tried getting through to HR but its virtually impossible.

They will write to inform you that you have been over paid and requesting that you send X amount back to them. Wait till you know the amount you should have been paid for the hours that you did. You should get a pay slip for your period on employment. When you are happy that you have that information make arrangements to return the over payment.

From what I have read on here you have been treated very badly by your Manager. Be it a Store, Commercial or Section  Manager they should not have said the things that they did. You may wish to make a written complaint about your treatment to Head Office naming the person concerned and have it looked into. It is possible that you are not the only person who has been treated badly.

Savvy_Sue

qwertyK said:

I’m not fully disabled . I have scoliosis which wouldn’t stop me from being a police officer. Desk work would actually be worse for me especially if it involved sitting down for a long time .

also 18 is the minimum age to join so there’s no reason as to why they wouldn’t take you. You do a degree apprenticeship scheme now. And having a disability (the one that  affects me more, autism), can actually mean you offer something different to the role 

Just a heads up: a former colleague came to us after applying to work with the police. They had been in the recruitment system for months. Finally, they looked at their health records and said "no, bad back, we won't have you."

Now I have no memory of exactly what the back problem was, but just be aware that it may not be plain sailing. 

qwertyK

Savvy_Sue said:

qwertyK said:

I’m not fully disabled . I have scoliosis which wouldn’t stop me from being a police officer. Desk work would actually be worse for me especially if it involved sitting down for a long time .

also 18 is the minimum age to join so there’s no reason as to why they wouldn’t take you. You do a degree apprenticeship scheme now. And having a disability (the one that  affects me more, autism), can actually mean you offer something different to the role 

Just a heads up: a former colleague came to us after applying to work with the police. They had been in the recruitment system for months. Finally, they looked at their health records and said "no, bad back, we won't have you."

Now I have no memory of exactly what the back problem was, but just be aware that it may not be plain sailing. 

Yeah I’ve been aware of this throughout it’s always been in the back (no pun intended) of my mind….more the fact that I’ve had mental health difficulties in the past quite recently I’m still on medication but reduced and totally different to who I was a year ago. They review it on a case by case basis. My doctor just signed off the medical form having seen my records and ticked the box that he’s satisfied I’m capable of physical work so if he’s happy to sign a medical form I can’t see why OH wouldn’t 

qwertyK

theoretica said:

The police insist on this reference - so you need to provide it - and hope. 

What I would advise you to do is spend some time reflecting on how you will respond if the police decide that they need to ask you either about the reference or about how short your time at that job was.  I strongly suggest you do not make it a rant about how bad the manager was. 

I sent it off and explained to them that I did only work there for a week and quit without notice , because it was conflicting with my evening job (which I already declared). That’s also not really wrong either as that was one of the reasons why I quit. 

The reason I was hesitant to tell them this was because I already sent off my pre employment checks before I got this job. Ultimately though I’m 18 and would be doing part time work whatever as my plan b is to go back to uni (left after getting pneumonia I missed a lot of work)

elsien

qwertyK said:

Savvy_Sue said:

qwertyK said:

I’m not fully disabled . I have scoliosis which wouldn’t stop me from being a police officer. Desk work would actually be worse for me especially if it involved sitting down for a long time .

also 18 is the minimum age to join so there’s no reason as to why they wouldn’t take you. You do a degree apprenticeship scheme now. And having a disability (the one that  affects me more, autism), can actually mean you offer something different to the role 

Just a heads up: a former colleague came to us after applying to work with the police. They had been in the recruitment system for months. Finally, they looked at their health records and said "no, bad back, we won't have you."

Now I have no memory of exactly what the back problem was, but just be aware that it may not be plain sailing. 

Yeah I’ve been aware of this throughout it’s always been in the back (no pun intended) of my mind….more the fact that I’ve had mental health difficulties in the past quite recently I’m still on medication but reduced and totally different to who I was a year ago. They review it on a case by case basis. My doctor just signed off the medical form having seen my records and ticked the box that he’s satisfied I’m capable of physical work so if he’s happy to sign a medical form I can’t see why OH wouldn’t 

Because occy health need to be sure you are capable for the specific role. Your GP doesn’t have that knowledge. 

And you’ve already found out the issues when you don’t have the chair (for example) that you need.