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DCFC79

getmore4less said:

What do you think you will be running to need 16GB?

Older memory tends to get cheaper over time futureproofing costs more. 
(very old prices go up again as most has been thrown out)

If you want to futureproof a better processor with better OBG would probably be a better option and in your price bracket.

Memory and SSD are the easy upgrades. 

Yes overkill with 16GB.

Is the 1 linked to earlier by "onlythebestwilldo" any good ?

Thanks

OnlyTheBestWillDo

DCFC79 said:

getmore4less said:

What do you think you will be running to need 16GB?

Older memory tends to get cheaper over time futureproofing costs more. 
(very old prices go up again as most has been thrown out)

If you want to futureproof a better processor with better OBG would probably be a better option and in your price bracket.

Memory and SSD are the easy upgrades. 

Yes overkill with 16GB.

Is the 1 linked to earlier by "onlythebestwilldo" any good ?

Thanks

I will answer this myself; the bottom line is that if you can get an 8th Gen or equivalent within budget or can stretch your budget to one, then that is what you should do.

The Optiplex 5060 linked to by Cisco001 a case in point: https://uk.webuy.com/product-detail/?id=sdesdelopt506005b

But of course you would need to fit your own NVMe SSD. Relatively easy; taking just a few minutes.

But it's over-budget. 

So 8th Gen or equivalent if you can afford it. If not; the best Optiplex 5040, 3050, 5050, 7050 and upwards/equivalents you can get for your money.

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DCFC79 said:

getmore4less said:

What do you think you will be running to need 16GB?

Older memory tends to get cheaper over time futureproofing costs more. 
(very old prices go up again as most has been thrown out)

If you want to futureproof a better processor with better OBG would probably be a better option and in your price bracket.

Memory and SSD are the easy upgrades. 

Yes overkill with 16GB.

Is the 1 linked to earlier by "onlythebestwilldo" any good ?

Thanks

16GB is not overkill at all.

If you are going with integrated graphics like the options suggested above, just be aware that your RAM is shared with the graphics card which is usually allowed to use up to 50% of your RAM so 8GB could turn into just 4GB when playing a game.

In the case of football manager - I just tried the demo version and it used 2.3GB of shared graphic memory when forced to run on my integrated GPU.



My PC was running at 10.5GB used out of 16GB available system memory with just Football manager, task manager and snipping tool running - don't underestimate the amount of RAM needed.

I'd recommend 16GB as a minimum.

Jenni_D

I currently have 8GB in my laptop. When I ran Trackmania 2020 it complained* about there not being enough free RAM (it supposedly "needs" 5GB), so I can understand why 16GB is not overkill. I'll look to upgrade my RAM at some point (the laptop can take 32GB in 2x 16GB sticks).

* I got around the "message" by setting a fixed pagefile size of 8GB.

DCFC79

Thanks for all the replies, its been helpful.

Found an i7 for £175 which is a little over my budget
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/255178633605?hash=item3b69d4f185:g:RMIAAOSwXwtdOaUR&var=555169981679

Found an i5 but a 4th Gen https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185042991660?hash=item2b156bfa2c:g:g5gAAOSwUNdhO1Tn

£180 would be my max.

Jenni_D

How do you get £175 from that first link? The lowest spec with an i7 is ~£220 (and they're all 2nd or 3rd gen CPUs, so the Windows 11 claim is somewhat disingenuous. The page title also says 32GB yet that amount of RAM isn't available from the options shown).

The 2nd link looks a better bet (of the two). Note that it has 2x DisplayPort graphics outputs (plus 1x VGA output) so you'd probably need a DP to HDMI adaptor (or cable).

DCFC79

Jenni_D said:

How do you get £175 from that first link? The lowest spec with an i7 is ~£220 (and they're all 2nd or 3rd gen CPUs, so the Windows 11 claim is somewhat disingenuous. The page title also says 32GB yet that amount of RAM isn't available from the options shown).

The 2nd link looks a better bet (of the two). Note that it has 2x DisplayPort graphics outputs (plus 1x VGA output) so you'd probably need a DP to HDMI adaptor (or cable).

It was 16GB RAM, 250 hard drive and i5. 

I'm going with 1 from the second link.

OnlyTheBestWillDo

DCFC79 said:

Thanks for all the replies, its been helpful.

Found an i7 for £175 which is a little over my budget
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/255178633605?hash=item3b69d4f185:g:RMIAAOSwXwtdOaUR&var=555169981679

Found an i5 but a 4th Gen https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185042991660?hash=item2b156bfa2c:g:g5gAAOSwUNdhO1Tn

£180 would be my max.

Is anyone there?? https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-2600-vs-Intel-Core-i3-8100/620vs3942

OnlyTheBestWillDo

Once again; https://uk.webuy.com/product-detail/?id=sdesdelopt506005b

Though that one needs an SSD fitted. Cost from £17.

Jenni_D

OnlyTheBestWillDo said:

Once again; https://uk.webuy.com/product-detail/?id=sdesdelopt506005b

Though that one needs an SSD fitted. Cost from £17.

And presumably by fitting an SSD means the existing HDD can be used as internal additional storage.