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CoastingHatbox

DCFC79 said:

CoastingHatbox said:

Got a Lenovo i7 3rd gen here, still going strong. More than adequate for the OP and if I were to sell it (I'm not) I'd expect to get about £100-£150 for it.

Will the OP still be playing the same game in 2025?
The end of support for Win 10 is still some time away.

Food for thought.

Who knows, its just over 3 years away.

So your suggesting an i7 3rd Gen ?

I'm saying it will do the job and potentially be a bit cheaper, on account machines that can run W11 (without registry hacks) are in higher demand.

It is your choice.

DCFC79

CoastingHatbox said:

DCFC79 said:

CoastingHatbox said:

Got a Lenovo i7 3rd gen here, still going strong. More than adequate for the OP and if I were to sell it (I'm not) I'd expect to get about £100-£150 for it.

Will the OP still be playing the same game in 2025?
The end of support for Win 10 is still some time away.

Food for thought.

Who knows, its just over 3 years away.

So your suggesting an i7 3rd Gen ?

I'm saying it will do the job and potentially be a bit cheaper, on account machines that can run W11 (without registry hacks) are in higher demand.

It is your choice.

Yes I checked the price difference and it was about £50.

I just want FM22 to run smooth, would I notice the difference between the 2 possibly not.

DCFC79

This one on ebay, i5 dual core, 16GB RAM and 250GB hard drive
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/114671487538?hash=item1ab2f40a32:g:ajoAAOSweR9hTb16


i5 4th Gen, 16GB RAM, 240GB SSD for £145

i7, 500GB HD, 16GB RAM for £162


Are either any good ?

OnlyTheBestWillDo

Cisco001 said:

Jenni_D said:

Cisco001 said:

OnlyTheBestWillDo said:

Cisco001 said:

For your information, MS stop support Win 10 in 2025.
I do not recommend you buying any PC older than intel i5 8th gen or AMD Ryzen 3rd gen.

And when choosing old PC, always go for standard tower if possible

But you linked the OP to a PC with an i3 8th Gen.....

Not that it's an issue...

Yup.

i3 8100 will support Win 11.

I think the point being made was that you said "I do not recommend you buying any PC older than intel i5 8th gen" but also that you linked (in your first reply here) to a system with an i3 8th gen. In other words you gave conflicting advice.  

As it happens, for the OP's intended usage, the difference between an i3 and an i5 (both 8th gen minimum) will probably not be noticeable.  

Probably a typo at the time.
All I meant was core i 8th gen.

How come you getting a bit aggressive?
It is just a public forum.
Take it easy

I did not note any aggression on JD's part; though I did note some 'gaslighting' in your reply to her.. Take it easy, we all make mistakes. No need to gaslight when it's pointed out to you.

CoastingHatbox

DCFC79 said:

This one on ebay, i5 dual core, 16GB RAM and 250GB hard drive
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/114671487538?hash=item1ab2f40a32:g:ajoAAOSweR9hTb16


i5 4th Gen, 16GB RAM, 240GB SSD for £145

i7, 500GB HD, 16GB RAM for £162


Are either any good ?

There's not that much in it really between the latter two.

I'd take the latter (i7) with 240GB SSD.

8 GB RAM will probably be enough but go for 16GB if you feel like treating yourself.

The first one you linked to is 2nd gen; that's probably pushing the envelope a bit in terms of age. Will still do the job though.

DCFC79

CoastingHatbox said:

DCFC79 said:

This one on ebay, i5 dual core, 16GB RAM and 250GB hard drive
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/114671487538?hash=item1ab2f40a32:g:ajoAAOSweR9hTb16


i5 4th Gen, 16GB RAM, 240GB SSD for £145

i7, 500GB HD, 16GB RAM for £162


Are either any good ?

There's not that much in it really between the latter two.

I'd take the latter (i7) with 240GB SSD.

8 GB RAM will probably be enough but go for 16GB if you feel like treating yourself.

The first one you linked to is 2nd gen; that's probably pushing the envelope a bit in terms of age. Will still do the job though.

Thanks

Id rather a 16GB if its to last a while.

Come across this one for £100, an i7, 500GB drive and 16GB RAM but its a 3rd Gen
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/175037542322hash=item28c10cefb2:g:lCoAAOSwfgFhn2IW

Would one of the previous 2 be better ?

OnlyTheBestWillDo

CoastingHatbox said:

DCFC79 said:

This one on ebay, i5 dual core, 16GB RAM and 250GB hard drive
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/114671487538?hash=item1ab2f40a32:g:ajoAAOSweR9hTb16


i5 4th Gen, 16GB RAM, 240GB SSD for £145

i7, 500GB HD, 16GB RAM for £162


Are either any good ?

There's not that much in it really between the latter two.

I'd take the latter (i7) with 240GB SSD.

8 GB RAM will probably be enough but go for 16GB if you feel like treating yourself.

The first one you linked to is 2nd gen; that's probably pushing the envelope a bit in terms of age. Will still do the job though.

Ten year old stuff in some cases. Will do the job, but for how long?

A 5040 would be my minimum entry point: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/174831983573 Though you would have to fit your own NVMe SSD.

https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-th/000126503/trusted-platform-module-tpm-upgrade-downgrade-process-for-windows-7-and-10-operating-system-upgrade-downgrade

getmore4less

What do you think you will be running to need 16GB?

Older memory tends to get cheaper over time futureproofing costs more. 
(very old prices go up again as most has been thrown out)

If you want to futureproof a better processor with better OBG would probably be a better option and in your price bracket.

Memory and SSD are the easy upgrades. 

CoastingHatbox

OnlyTheBestWillDo said:

CoastingHatbox said:

DCFC79 said:

This one on ebay, i5 dual core, 16GB RAM and 250GB hard drive
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/114671487538?hash=item1ab2f40a32:g:ajoAAOSweR9hTb16


i5 4th Gen, 16GB RAM, 240GB SSD for £145

i7, 500GB HD, 16GB RAM for £162


Are either any good ?

There's not that much in it really between the latter two.

I'd take the latter (i7) with 240GB SSD.

8 GB RAM will probably be enough but go for 16GB if you feel like treating yourself.

The first one you linked to is 2nd gen; that's probably pushing the envelope a bit in terms of age. Will still do the job though.

Ten year old stuff in some cases. Will do the job, but for how long?

A 5040 would be my minimum entry point: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/174831983573 Though you would have to fit your own NVMe SSD.

https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-th/000126503/trusted-platform-module-tpm-upgrade-downgrade-process-for-windows-7-and-10-operating-system-upgrade-downgrade

We've got plenty of 4th gen machines in our pool of developer workstations and still seldom see failures. Just retiring the Core i5s on grounds they are now on the slow side and take too long to compile the ever growing codebase. The i7s will probably follow next. The the 3rd gen machines were retired on the same grounds. 2nd gen machines a couple of years ago.

I have 4 2nd and 3rd gen laptops and a 3rd gen desktop all going strong. Two of my servers are Ivy Bridge based.

All very anecdotal. The odds of failure do increase with age but not that much these options should be discounted. I can remember a certain range of HP Compaq desktops which did have a shelf life due to dodgy capacitors - any of them over 5 years old were on borrowed time. Thankfully those days seem to be behind us.

OnlyTheBestWillDo

CoastingHatbox said:

OnlyTheBestWillDo said:

CoastingHatbox said:

DCFC79 said:

This one on ebay, i5 dual core, 16GB RAM and 250GB hard drive
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/114671487538?hash=item1ab2f40a32:g:ajoAAOSweR9hTb16


i5 4th Gen, 16GB RAM, 240GB SSD for £145

i7, 500GB HD, 16GB RAM for £162


Are either any good ?

There's not that much in it really between the latter two.

I'd take the latter (i7) with 240GB SSD.

8 GB RAM will probably be enough but go for 16GB if you feel like treating yourself.

The first one you linked to is 2nd gen; that's probably pushing the envelope a bit in terms of age. Will still do the job though.

Ten year old stuff in some cases. Will do the job, but for how long?

A 5040 would be my minimum entry point: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/174831983573 Though you would have to fit your own NVMe SSD.

https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-th/000126503/trusted-platform-module-tpm-upgrade-downgrade-process-for-windows-7-and-10-operating-system-upgrade-downgrade

We've got plenty of 4th gen machines in our pool of developer workstations and still seldom see failures. Just retiring the Core i5s on grounds they are now on the slow side and take too long to compile the ever growing codebase. The i7s will probably follow next. The the 3rd gen machines were retired on the same grounds. 2nd gen machines a couple of years ago.

I have 4 2nd and 3rd gen laptops and a 3rd gen desktop all going strong. Two of my servers are Ivy Bridge based.

All very anecdotal. The odds of failure do increase with age but not that much these options should be discounted. I can remember a certain range of HP Compaq desktops which did have a shelf life due to dodgy capacitors - any of them over 5 years old were on borrowed time. Thankfully those days seem to be behind us.

My DELL desktop was ten years old when I bought it. Not knocking them at all.
Just a suggestion.