Claiming PIP via RelayUK

Muttleythefrog

Deleted_User said:

Muttleythefrog said:

Deleted_User said:

Muttleythefrog said:

Deleted_User said:

13a Can I use the following ..

I can (and do) drive – but never on my own – Because I need help during a journey when I’m driving - for example : I get stressed from the thought of not being able to fill up my car with petrol or if I were to break down – I would be unable to cope with either of these circumstances.

I am unable to refuel the car myself – because I would be unable to physically fill the car with fuel and I would need to walk to the cashier to pay – which I would be unable to do.

And if I was to break down – I would be unable to call the breakdown service and explain the problem

As above... I feel you're clutching at straws trying to make things fit... and I presume hoping eventually someone says what you want to hear. 

Ultimately it appears your difficulties translate very well for activity 12 but not activity 11 but you are more expert on your circumstances than people here. If you disagree there is absolutely nothing to stop you documenting your difficulties in activity 11 but you've been given consistent advice here for what looks like months. If you do try to stretch your argument to the DWP regarding being unable to follow a route while driving due to mental health problems/cognitive disfunction then it may be that you conclude you should not be anywhere near a road in a vehicle... so do think about that!

Answer the questions honestly and give full details of your problems in the available space for each relevant activity.

I didn't say that I was unable to follow a route  due to mental health problems - I simply pointed out my difficulties in refuelling and contacting the breakdown service, should I ever need to ....

But as long as DWP follow their own rules on mobility - I see no problems in earning 12 points through 14 alone

Just one more question -

Could you confirm that the date by which the PIP form must be returned (ie (originally)14th Jan) is the  postmarked date/ date posted – as opposed to the received date ?

Because I still have not received a letter, confirming the extended deadline - I used relayuk  to ask them, before christmas

If not – it took 10 days to arrive and potentially the same to be returned – leaving just 10 days to fill it in - which is unfair and virtually impossible to achieve

Regarding the bolded - I am not saying you are either but it is the only conceivable relevance to task 11 (as you're suggesting stress interferes with your ability to complete a journey) and hence I tried to point out the likely fruitlessness of your direction of thought. The task is about being able to plan and navigate a journey. I agree it seems likely you should score points on task 12 and hence suggest focus your efforts to describe problems that are relevant to point scoring descriptors in relevant tasks. Nothing to stop you documenting what you think is relevant disabilities on the form if you disagree with the repeated and consistent advice here... it is after all your claim and persuading people here of anything won't get you PIP regardless.

Regarding the form - I don't honestly know but you're into the realm of haggling over a day or two when you're getting and using up weeks. When you do return form (which you could do first class if necessary) just flag up to them you were given 2 week extension in contact with DWP on date x. I do not think the DWP send any extension confirmation - so for goodness sake don't sit waiting for such even if they've agreed to send.  I've advised to focus on getting the form prepared even though you are hoping to get help from CAB. I would certainly not rely on that help (especially in the current climate where organisations are up and down regarding service due to pandemic) and completing the form (in a mock format if necessary on separate sheets/computer) in preparedness could only help in any support you get from them. What I want you to avoid is the car crash of a deadline you cannot meet and I understand you now have 3 weeks which should be sufficient. If heading towards that extended time limit then send first class perhaps and ensure get proof of posting (free at post office) at least.

Good luck!

I have already mocked up my form
Ready to fill it I and send it off should CAB fail me!!
Although it's going to be mainly printed
Should I attach individual pages to individual activity or the whole lot at the end?
I have tons of medical docs and have a brilliant supportive doc from physio. 
Just one potential problem - my GP is off with covid and she is the only one who knows me! 

If in the sections where you're to enter text you decide instead either due to space or convenience enter the information on separate sheet I would just put all additional sheets at end. I would advise though on the form pointing at your relevant pages for your 'entries' (e.g. "Please see additional sheets page x") ... and make sure each sheet is dated and numbered plus has your name and NiNo on and with titles for each section you are addressing of the form.

I wouldn't worry too much about GP... at the end of the day not necessary and they may be of limited specific help.

[Deleted User]

Spoonie_Turtle said:

Deleted_User said:

Could you confirm that the date by which the PIP form must be returned (ie (originally)14th Jan) is the  postmarked date/ date posted – as opposed to the received date ?

Because I still have not received a letter, confirming the extended deadline - I used relayuk  to ask them, before christmas

If not – it took 10 days to arrive and potentially the same to be returned – leaving just 10 days to fill it in - which is unfair and virtually impossible to achieve

They don't send out another letter.  I think I pencilled a note on the front saying the extended date just to be sure.

I can't advise about the dates though, sorry.

I have received an email from DWP - , "I can confirm that you PIP has been extended for you and you have got till 19th February to send this information back to us" !

poppy12345

Deleted_User said:

poppy12345 said:

It's not standard procedure for them to send a letter confirming the extended date to return the form. They simply add a note onto the computer.

There are huge postal delays for post going to and coming from DWP so it could take a few weeks for them to receive it. You've had quite a few weeks already to start the form with all the advice you've had over the years from people on here.

Deleted_User said:

Muttleythefrog said:

Deleted_User said:

13a Can I use the following ..

I can (and do) drive – but never on my own – Because I need help during a journey when I’m driving - for example : I get stressed from the thought of not being able to fill up my car with petrol or if I were to break down – I would be unable to cope with either of these circumstances.

I am unable to refuel the car myself – because I would be unable to physically fill the car with fuel and I would need to walk to the cashier to pay – which I would be unable to do.

And if I was to break down – I would be unable to call the breakdown service and explain the problem

As above... I feel you're clutching at straws trying to make things fit... and I presume hoping eventually someone says what you want to hear. 

Ultimately it appears your difficulties translate very well for activity 12 but not activity 11 but you are more expert on your circumstances than people here. If you disagree there is absolutely nothing to stop you documenting your difficulties in activity 11 but you've been given consistent advice here for what looks like months. If you do try to stretch your argument to the DWP regarding being unable to follow a route while driving due to mental health problems/cognitive disfunction then it may be that you conclude you should not be anywhere near a road in a vehicle... so do think about that!

Answer the questions honestly and give full details of your problems in the available space for each relevant activity.

I didn't say that I was unable to follow a route  due to mental health problems - I simply pointed out my difficulties in refuelling and contacting the breakdown service, should I ever need to ....

Which is exactly why you won't qualify for any points in following and planning a journey.

Thanks but please stop being so negative with every response to my posts 

I wouldn't need to be if you didn't keep asking the same questions to activities that don't apply to you based on the information you've given. Hence why it's been said several times by those that have commented that we are indeed going round in circles.

poppy12345

Muttleythefrog said:

Deleted_User said:

Muttleythefrog said:

Deleted_User said:

Muttleythefrog said:

Deleted_User said:

13a Can I use the following ..

I can (and do) drive – but never on my own – Because I need help during a journey when I’m driving - for example : I get stressed from the thought of not being able to fill up my car with petrol or if I were to break down – I would be unable to cope with either of these circumstances.

I am unable to refuel the car myself – because I would be unable to physically fill the car with fuel and I would need to walk to the cashier to pay – which I would be unable to do.

And if I was to break down – I would be unable to call the breakdown service and explain the problem

As above... I feel you're clutching at straws trying to make things fit... and I presume hoping eventually someone says what you want to hear. 

Ultimately it appears your difficulties translate very well for activity 12 but not activity 11 but you are more expert on your circumstances than people here. If you disagree there is absolutely nothing to stop you documenting your difficulties in activity 11 but you've been given consistent advice here for what looks like months. If you do try to stretch your argument to the DWP regarding being unable to follow a route while driving due to mental health problems/cognitive disfunction then it may be that you conclude you should not be anywhere near a road in a vehicle... so do think about that!

Answer the questions honestly and give full details of your problems in the available space for each relevant activity.

I didn't say that I was unable to follow a route  due to mental health problems - I simply pointed out my difficulties in refuelling and contacting the breakdown service, should I ever need to ....

But as long as DWP follow their own rules on mobility - I see no problems in earning 12 points through 14 alone

Just one more question -

Could you confirm that the date by which the PIP form must be returned (ie (originally)14th Jan) is the  postmarked date/ date posted – as opposed to the received date ?

Because I still have not received a letter, confirming the extended deadline - I used relayuk  to ask them, before christmas

If not – it took 10 days to arrive and potentially the same to be returned – leaving just 10 days to fill it in - which is unfair and virtually impossible to achieve

Regarding the bolded - I am not saying you are either but it is the only conceivable relevance to task 11 (as you're suggesting stress interferes with your ability to complete a journey) and hence I tried to point out the likely fruitlessness of your direction of thought. The task is about being able to plan and navigate a journey. I agree it seems likely you should score points on task 12 and hence suggest focus your efforts to describe problems that are relevant to point scoring descriptors in relevant tasks. Nothing to stop you documenting what you think is relevant disabilities on the form if you disagree with the repeated and consistent advice here... it is after all your claim and persuading people here of anything won't get you PIP regardless.

Regarding the form - I don't honestly know but you're into the realm of haggling over a day or two when you're getting and using up weeks. When you do return form (which you could do first class if necessary) just flag up to them you were given 2 week extension in contact with DWP on date x. I do not think the DWP send any extension confirmation - so for goodness sake don't sit waiting for such even if they've agreed to send.  I've advised to focus on getting the form prepared even though you are hoping to get help from CAB. I would certainly not rely on that help (especially in the current climate where organisations are up and down regarding service due to pandemic) and completing the form (in a mock format if necessary on separate sheets/computer) in preparedness could only help in any support you get from them. What I want you to avoid is the car crash of a deadline you cannot meet and I understand you now have 3 weeks which should be sufficient. If heading towards that extended time limit then send first class perhaps and ensure get proof of posting (free at post office) at least.

Good luck!

I have already mocked up my form
Ready to fill it I and send it off should CAB fail me!!
Although it's going to be mainly printed
Should I attach individual pages to individual activity or the whole lot at the end?
I have tons of medical docs and have a brilliant supportive doc from physio. 
Just one potential problem - my GP is off with covid and she is the only one who knows me! 

I wouldn't worry too much about GP... at the end of the day not necessary and they may be of limited specific help.

Agree with this. A GP doesn't spend any time with you to know how your conditions affect you against the PIP descriptors. They don't see you wash/dress/undress/cook etc etc. Letters from a GP aren't the best evidence to send.

Muttleythefrog

Deleted_User said:

Spoonie_Turtle said:

Deleted_User said:

Could you confirm that the date by which the PIP form must be returned (ie (originally)14th Jan) is the  postmarked date/ date posted – as opposed to the received date ?

Because I still have not received a letter, confirming the extended deadline - I used relayuk  to ask them, before christmas

If not – it took 10 days to arrive and potentially the same to be returned – leaving just 10 days to fill it in - which is unfair and virtually impossible to achieve

They don't send out another letter.  I think I pencilled a note on the front saying the extended date just to be sure.

I can't advise about the dates though, sorry.

I have received an email from DWP - , "I can confirm that you PIP has been extended for you and you have got till 19th February to send this information back to us" !

Dates are getting confusing but if they've sent you that then print it out and send with form so you have in black and white the return by date they've offered.

[Deleted User]

Muttleythefrog said:

Deleted_User said:

Spoonie_Turtle said:

Deleted_User said:

Could you confirm that the date by which the PIP form must be returned (ie (originally)14th Jan) is the  postmarked date/ date posted – as opposed to the received date ?

Because I still have not received a letter, confirming the extended deadline - I used relayuk  to ask them, before christmas

If not – it took 10 days to arrive and potentially the same to be returned – leaving just 10 days to fill it in - which is unfair and virtually impossible to achieve

They don't send out another letter.  I think I pencilled a note on the front saying the extended date just to be sure.

I can't advise about the dates though, sorry.

I have received an email from DWP - , "I can confirm that you PIP has been extended for you and you have got till 19th February to send this information back to us" !

Dates are getting confusing but if they've sent you that then print it out and send with form so you have in black and white the return by date they've offered.

This was in response to a email that I sent to Chloe Smith Minister for the Disabled - enquiring why I was not offered an onlne application for PIP (they are supposed to offer it to ALL callers now).

I agree about the dates though...

And NO she didnt answer my question

[Deleted User]

poppy12345 said:

Muttleythefrog said:

Deleted_User said:

Muttleythefrog said:

Deleted_User said:

Muttleythefrog said:

Deleted_User said:

13a Can I use the following ..

I can (and do) drive – but never on my own – Because I need help during a journey when I’m driving - for example : I get stressed from the thought of not being able to fill up my car with petrol or if I were to break down – I would be unable to cope with either of these circumstances.

I am unable to refuel the car myself – because I would be unable to physically fill the car with fuel and I would need to walk to the cashier to pay – which I would be unable to do.

And if I was to break down – I would be unable to call the breakdown service and explain the problem

As above... I feel you're clutching at straws trying to make things fit... and I presume hoping eventually someone says what you want to hear. 

Ultimately it appears your difficulties translate very well for activity 12 but not activity 11 but you are more expert on your circumstances than people here. If you disagree there is absolutely nothing to stop you documenting your difficulties in activity 11 but you've been given consistent advice here for what looks like months. If you do try to stretch your argument to the DWP regarding being unable to follow a route while driving due to mental health problems/cognitive disfunction then it may be that you conclude you should not be anywhere near a road in a vehicle... so do think about that!

Answer the questions honestly and give full details of your problems in the available space for each relevant activity.

I didn't say that I was unable to follow a route  due to mental health problems - I simply pointed out my difficulties in refuelling and contacting the breakdown service, should I ever need to ....

But as long as DWP follow their own rules on mobility - I see no problems in earning 12 points through 14 alone

Just one more question -

Could you confirm that the date by which the PIP form must be returned (ie (originally)14th Jan) is the  postmarked date/ date posted – as opposed to the received date ?

Because I still have not received a letter, confirming the extended deadline - I used relayuk  to ask them, before christmas

If not – it took 10 days to arrive and potentially the same to be returned – leaving just 10 days to fill it in - which is unfair and virtually impossible to achieve

Regarding the bolded - I am not saying you are either but it is the only conceivable relevance to task 11 (as you're suggesting stress interferes with your ability to complete a journey) and hence I tried to point out the likely fruitlessness of your direction of thought. The task is about being able to plan and navigate a journey. I agree it seems likely you should score points on task 12 and hence suggest focus your efforts to describe problems that are relevant to point scoring descriptors in relevant tasks. Nothing to stop you documenting what you think is relevant disabilities on the form if you disagree with the repeated and consistent advice here... it is after all your claim and persuading people here of anything won't get you PIP regardless.

Regarding the form - I don't honestly know but you're into the realm of haggling over a day or two when you're getting and using up weeks. When you do return form (which you could do first class if necessary) just flag up to them you were given 2 week extension in contact with DWP on date x. I do not think the DWP send any extension confirmation - so for goodness sake don't sit waiting for such even if they've agreed to send.  I've advised to focus on getting the form prepared even though you are hoping to get help from CAB. I would certainly not rely on that help (especially in the current climate where organisations are up and down regarding service due to pandemic) and completing the form (in a mock format if necessary on separate sheets/computer) in preparedness could only help in any support you get from them. What I want you to avoid is the car crash of a deadline you cannot meet and I understand you now have 3 weeks which should be sufficient. If heading towards that extended time limit then send first class perhaps and ensure get proof of posting (free at post office) at least.

Good luck!

I have already mocked up my form
Ready to fill it I and send it off should CAB fail me!!
Although it's going to be mainly printed
Should I attach individual pages to individual activity or the whole lot at the end?
I have tons of medical docs and have a brilliant supportive doc from physio. 
Just one potential problem - my GP is off with covid and she is the only one who knows me! 

I wouldn't worry too much about GP... at the end of the day not necessary and they may be of limited specific help.

Agree with this. A GP doesn't spend any time with you to know how your conditions affect you against the PIP descriptors. They don't see you wash/dress/undress/cook etc etc. Letters from a GP aren't the best evidence to send to. 

So - in order of importance - if not GP
Is it my info that they rely on or consultants ? 
Or perhaps wife /partners? 

poppy12345

As previously advised, it's your anecdotal evidence that's the most important...(real world examples) and i don't mean things like "you can't do X because of Y because that's an assertion. Medical evidence from GP;s/Consultans/Doctors is only useful if it states exactly how your conditions affect you and most doesn't.

Muttleythefrog

Deleted_User said:

poppy12345 said:

Muttleythefrog said:

Deleted_User said:

Muttleythefrog said:

Deleted_User said:

Muttleythefrog said:

Deleted_User said:

13a Can I use the following ..

I can (and do) drive – but never on my own – Because I need help during a journey when I’m driving - for example : I get stressed from the thought of not being able to fill up my car with petrol or if I were to break down – I would be unable to cope with either of these circumstances.

I am unable to refuel the car myself – because I would be unable to physically fill the car with fuel and I would need to walk to the cashier to pay – which I would be unable to do.

And if I was to break down – I would be unable to call the breakdown service and explain the problem

As above... I feel you're clutching at straws trying to make things fit... and I presume hoping eventually someone says what you want to hear. 

Ultimately it appears your difficulties translate very well for activity 12 but not activity 11 but you are more expert on your circumstances than people here. If you disagree there is absolutely nothing to stop you documenting your difficulties in activity 11 but you've been given consistent advice here for what looks like months. If you do try to stretch your argument to the DWP regarding being unable to follow a route while driving due to mental health problems/cognitive disfunction then it may be that you conclude you should not be anywhere near a road in a vehicle... so do think about that!

Answer the questions honestly and give full details of your problems in the available space for each relevant activity.

I didn't say that I was unable to follow a route  due to mental health problems - I simply pointed out my difficulties in refuelling and contacting the breakdown service, should I ever need to ....

But as long as DWP follow their own rules on mobility - I see no problems in earning 12 points through 14 alone

Just one more question -

Could you confirm that the date by which the PIP form must be returned (ie (originally)14th Jan) is the  postmarked date/ date posted – as opposed to the received date ?

Because I still have not received a letter, confirming the extended deadline - I used relayuk  to ask them, before christmas

If not – it took 10 days to arrive and potentially the same to be returned – leaving just 10 days to fill it in - which is unfair and virtually impossible to achieve

Regarding the bolded - I am not saying you are either but it is the only conceivable relevance to task 11 (as you're suggesting stress interferes with your ability to complete a journey) and hence I tried to point out the likely fruitlessness of your direction of thought. The task is about being able to plan and navigate a journey. I agree it seems likely you should score points on task 12 and hence suggest focus your efforts to describe problems that are relevant to point scoring descriptors in relevant tasks. Nothing to stop you documenting what you think is relevant disabilities on the form if you disagree with the repeated and consistent advice here... it is after all your claim and persuading people here of anything won't get you PIP regardless.

Regarding the form - I don't honestly know but you're into the realm of haggling over a day or two when you're getting and using up weeks. When you do return form (which you could do first class if necessary) just flag up to them you were given 2 week extension in contact with DWP on date x. I do not think the DWP send any extension confirmation - so for goodness sake don't sit waiting for such even if they've agreed to send.  I've advised to focus on getting the form prepared even though you are hoping to get help from CAB. I would certainly not rely on that help (especially in the current climate where organisations are up and down regarding service due to pandemic) and completing the form (in a mock format if necessary on separate sheets/computer) in preparedness could only help in any support you get from them. What I want you to avoid is the car crash of a deadline you cannot meet and I understand you now have 3 weeks which should be sufficient. If heading towards that extended time limit then send first class perhaps and ensure get proof of posting (free at post office) at least.

Good luck!

I have already mocked up my form
Ready to fill it I and send it off should CAB fail me!!
Although it's going to be mainly printed
Should I attach individual pages to individual activity or the whole lot at the end?
I have tons of medical docs and have a brilliant supportive doc from physio. 
Just one potential problem - my GP is off with covid and she is the only one who knows me! 

I wouldn't worry too much about GP... at the end of the day not necessary and they may be of limited specific help.

Agree with this. A GP doesn't spend any time with you to know how your conditions affect you against the PIP descriptors. They don't see you wash/dress/undress/cook etc etc. Letters from a GP aren't the best evidence to send to. 

So - in order of importance - if not GP
Is it my info that they rely on or consultants ? 
Or perhaps wife /partners? 

As above.... the problem typically of evidence from medical professionals involved in your situation is that they are likely not looking at your problems through the eyes of PIP activities/descriptors and so often their reports are of limited specific use. For example... in all the years I've met with my GP she has never enquired if I have difficulties dressing and she's never seen me get dressed. The DWP use the Health assessment companies to provide very specific fact finding and opinion in relation to the activities and descriptors and hence the decision makers at DWP tend to stand behind it in effect regarding it as their best evidence. The form is for specific fact finding in relation to your difficulties and so is very important.

Important is to describe in detail your difficulties with each activity taking yourself through examples to highlight the problems you face and the things you cannot achieve plus any help you need from others/aids. If you have a 'face to face assessment' of some form or other then quite possibly that will be highly important (the resulting report constructed as result anyway) that determines the DWP decision.

I would include medical evidence that is consistent with what you say on the form and gives any diagnoses that you give on the form that cause you relevant disablements. I definitely would include medical evidence that seems to give opinion or facts that is relevant to the activities for PIP and I would perhaps point to such in your form entries - e.g. 'I enclose medical report titled x by y of date z which states that I need my wife to supervise and prompt me in taking my medication on most days because I get the dose wrong or forget to take it'.

Alice_Holt

Deleted_User said:

poppy12345 said:

Muttleythefrog said:

Deleted_User said:

Muttleythefrog said:

Deleted_User said:

Muttleythefrog said:

Deleted_User said:

13a Can I use the following ..

I can (and do) drive – but never on my own – Because I need help during a journey when I’m driving - for example : I get stressed from the thought of not being able to fill up my car with petrol or if I were to break down – I would be unable to cope with either of these circumstances.

I am unable to refuel the car myself – because I would be unable to physically fill the car with fuel and I would need to walk to the cashier to pay – which I would be unable to do.

And if I was to break down – I would be unable to call the breakdown service and explain the problem

As above... I feel you're clutching at straws trying to make things fit... and I presume hoping eventually someone says what you want to hear. 

Ultimately it appears your difficulties translate very well for activity 12 but not activity 11 but you are more expert on your circumstances than people here. If you disagree there is absolutely nothing to stop you documenting your difficulties in activity 11 but you've been given consistent advice here for what looks like months. If you do try to stretch your argument to the DWP regarding being unable to follow a route while driving due to mental health problems/cognitive disfunction then it may be that you conclude you should not be anywhere near a road in a vehicle... so do think about that!

Answer the questions honestly and give full details of your problems in the available space for each relevant activity.

I didn't say that I was unable to follow a route  due to mental health problems - I simply pointed out my difficulties in refuelling and contacting the breakdown service, should I ever need to ....

But as long as DWP follow their own rules on mobility - I see no problems in earning 12 points through 14 alone

Just one more question -

Could you confirm that the date by which the PIP form must be returned (ie (originally)14th Jan) is the  postmarked date/ date posted – as opposed to the received date ?

Because I still have not received a letter, confirming the extended deadline - I used relayuk  to ask them, before christmas

If not – it took 10 days to arrive and potentially the same to be returned – leaving just 10 days to fill it in - which is unfair and virtually impossible to achieve

Regarding the bolded - I am not saying you are either but it is the only conceivable relevance to task 11 (as you're suggesting stress interferes with your ability to complete a journey) and hence I tried to point out the likely fruitlessness of your direction of thought. The task is about being able to plan and navigate a journey. I agree it seems likely you should score points on task 12 and hence suggest focus your efforts to describe problems that are relevant to point scoring descriptors in relevant tasks. Nothing to stop you documenting what you think is relevant disabilities on the form if you disagree with the repeated and consistent advice here... it is after all your claim and persuading people here of anything won't get you PIP regardless.

Regarding the form - I don't honestly know but you're into the realm of haggling over a day or two when you're getting and using up weeks. When you do return form (which you could do first class if necessary) just flag up to them you were given 2 week extension in contact with DWP on date x. I do not think the DWP send any extension confirmation - so for goodness sake don't sit waiting for such even if they've agreed to send.  I've advised to focus on getting the form prepared even though you are hoping to get help from CAB. I would certainly not rely on that help (especially in the current climate where organisations are up and down regarding service due to pandemic) and completing the form (in a mock format if necessary on separate sheets/computer) in preparedness could only help in any support you get from them. What I want you to avoid is the car crash of a deadline you cannot meet and I understand you now have 3 weeks which should be sufficient. If heading towards that extended time limit then send first class perhaps and ensure get proof of posting (free at post office) at least.

Good luck!

I have already mocked up my form
Ready to fill it I and send it off should CAB fail me!!
Although it's going to be mainly printed
Should I attach individual pages to individual activity or the whole lot at the end?
I have tons of medical docs and have a brilliant supportive doc from physio. 
Just one potential problem - my GP is off with covid and she is the only one who knows me! 

I wouldn't worry too much about GP... at the end of the day not necessary and they may be of limited specific help.

Agree with this. A GP doesn't spend any time with you to know how your conditions affect you against the PIP descriptors. They don't see you wash/dress/undress/cook etc etc. Letters from a GP aren't the best evidence to send to. 

So - in order of importance - if not GP
Is it my info that they rely on or consultants ? 
Or perhaps wife /partners? 

        It's the information you give about how your health conditions affect your daily life (and in particular the PIP activities), as interpreted by the ATOS / Capita / Maximus healthcare professional (HCP) who performs your PIP assessment that is crucial.

        Any relevant confirming evidence - medical, letters from carers, etc can be helpful.  


     The key is having a good awareness of the PIP activities, descriptors, and points system. Understanding how your health conditions fit into these actives, given the importance of "reliably" and "majority of the time" in PIP decisions.
Then explaining this honestly, straight-forwardly, consistently, and as clearly as you can both in your form and to the HCP.
    Be prepared to appeal if necessary.
 
    Attempts to be overly clever, an argumentative attitude, wilful and deliberate obfuscation are not received well by HCP, DWP DM's, and tribunal judges. If they get any sense they are being 'played' by the claimant - it rarely ends well, Deleted_User.