How do ordinary people make the switch to electric vehicles ?

NBLondon

Grumpy_chap said:

Makes you wonder whether SAIC aren't kicking themselves for not investing a bit more in advertising and chucking the MGs out at £50k instead.

Home market focus came before export?   MG apparently meaning Modern Gentleman.

I test-drove an MG6 when it first came out.  It was OK - but plasticy and cheap as chips.  I'm guessing that the new ZS (as opposed to the re-worked and re-badged Rover of 20 years back) is similar and as jimbo says - they are selling to people who are rating practicality and price over image.  Because Dacia don't do an EV yet.

BOWFER

Herzlos said:

People are more likely buying based on cost, since the MG 5 EV is incredible value for an all electric estate, and the MG ZS / MG 3 were pretty cheap compared to their peers too.

Do you honestly think they'd sell just as many badged SAIC?
Really...?
We'll never know now, but knowing how (kind) jingoistic and (unkind) downright racist Britain is right now, I doubt it.

Advocado

BOWFER said:

Herzlos said:

People are more likely buying based on cost, since the MG 5 EV is incredible value for an all electric estate, and the MG ZS / MG 3 were pretty cheap compared to their peers too.

Do you honestly think they'd sell just as many badged SAIC?
Really...?
We'll never know now, but knowing how (kind) jingoistic and (unkind) downright racist Britain is right now, I doubt it.

Britain is racist?  Where have you got that from?!

I find it to be a wonderfully multi-cultural, accepting and open country that's learning from its past to ensure it does better today and in the future.

Are there some racist Britons?  Sadly.  But every country has its bad'ns - thankfully I think Britain has relatively few.  But I would stongly argue agains the notion that Britain is "downright racist".

Flight3287462

BOWFER said:

movilogo said:

Electric cars are too expensive. Charging takes too long. 
Ordinary people can continue with cheaper, better petrol/diesel cars as long as these are avaialble.

What an utterly rubbish post to me in with at this point.
Booooo

It's Bowfer's way  or the highway.  No alternate views allowed.

BOWFER

Flight3287462 said:

BOWFER said:

movilogo said:

Electric cars are too expensive. Charging takes too long. 
Ordinary people can continue with cheaper, better petrol/diesel cars as long as these are avaialble.

What an utterly rubbish post to me in with at this point.
Booooo

It's Bowfer's way  or the highway.  No alternate views allowed.

Not at all, it's just a silly post to come in with.
Like having a chat about craft ales in a pub and someone walking past going "they're all rubbish"
Doesn't add anything whatsoever.

Vegastare

Sorry if my four penneth isn't warranted but I looked at an MG....typical woman I went by looks  saw one the a carpark - so off we went to local garage, all I can say if anyone thinks it's in anyway an MG - they will soon realize it is not when they take a closer look.

There is a reason things are referred to as cheap  imports.  Although not so cheap in this case.

As to the main question - I have no idea how ordinary folk can financially make the switch.  One hopes maybe supply and demand might lower the price over the years.  Also those with mobility cars are already being gently pushed to hybrid and my neighbour has just got one.   In  three years when he would again be due a change his garage has told him his next car will be EV.  so the mobility scheme is moving to EV.

BOWFER

NBLondon said:

Grumpy_chap said:

Makes you wonder whether SAIC aren't kicking themselves for not investing a bit more in advertising and chucking the MGs out at £50k instead.

Home market focus came before export?   MG apparently meaning Modern Gentleman.

I test-drove an MG6 when it first came out.  It was OK - but plasticy and cheap as chips.  I'm guessing that the new ZS (as opposed to the re-worked and re-badged Rover of 20 years back) is similar and as jimbo says - they are selling to people who are rating practicality and price over image.  Because Dacia don't do an EV yet.

The revamped 2022 MGZS is still ugly as sin.
The Marvel-R now, that's much more like it.

Jenni_D

https://mgmotor.eu/model/marvel-r

The big touchscreen is very Tesla-esque. Hopefully the CPU/RAM behind the system is beefy enough to make the system smooth and quick - something lower-end cars with such displays are often criticised for.

BTW @BOWFER the nearest dealer to you is Mackie Motors in Brechin.  

born_again

Grumpy_chap said:

Advocado said:

BOWFER said:

As I mentioned in another post, they're going to hit all kinds of jingoistic nonsense here.
Would the MG5 and MGZS electric cars have sold so many if they were known as the SAIC5 and SAIC-EZS?
Not a chance.

I think it's actually really sad that people are buying MGs thinking they have something to do with the old MG they used to know.

People really are so easy to dupe.

There is also a massive amount of "double standards" in how people view brands.

The Chinese-owned SAIC / MG EV new entry vehicle is, apparently un-desirable.

The Chinese-owned Geely / Polestar new entry vehicle is, apparently a highly desirable premium car.

The complete stranger no history doesn't want to run a car company and makes cars with poor build quality Elon / Tesla is, apparently, highly desireable.

Makes you wonder whether SAIC aren't kicking themselves for not investing a bit more in advertising and chucking the MGs out at £50k instead.

Not forgetting the Tesla Model Y made for european market in China: Shanghai (Giga Shanghai)

born_again

BOWFER said:

jimbo6977 said:

I'm not convinced too many are. I think they are buying them because they are the cheapest sensible EVs available. 

How many people buying a Citroen have any concept that they are buying a Dutch-Italian-American car?

I've zero doubt the MG badge helps, adding an air of familiarity.
You'll never convince me the cars would sell the same if they were badged SAIC, even with the cheap cost and long warranty.
I'd venture SAIC have thought the same, or they wouldn't have bothered.

Only the same as when the like as Datson (Nissan) came over back in the 70's. Look at them and other Japanese manufactures now.