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Courtesy Car Claim Form Gladstone’s Defence

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  • Jenni_D
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    The DQ only wants to know how many people will be attending - from your side that is 1, unless anyone else will also be attending to support you or be a witness. (The DQ was designed to understand where the hearing should be and how big a room is needed - in these remote hearing days it is somewhat archaic but the basic premise remains the same).
    Jenni x
  • Coupon-mad
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    I would resolve to ALL act as witnesses for each other and even ask the court if your claims can be heard at one hearing or at least by the same Judge, same day listing, as sequential hearings.

    Your positions as honest witness defendants will be stronger in numbers.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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  • Suzy_1
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    I would resolve to ALL act as witnesses for each other and even ask the court if your claims can be heard at one hearing or at least by the same Judge, same day listing, as sequential hearings.

    Your positions as honest witness defendants will be stronger in numbers.

    One of the witnesses who’s going to write a letter for me had no idea he could defend it so paid up but he’s still willing to give me a supporting letter; but other person is defending as well so we can ask if they could hear us on the same day same judge etc. 

    Thank you Coupon-mad that’s a very good advice. How can I ask them; by a letter to the court? Addressed to whom? 

    I appreciate all your help
    Thank you 
  • Suzy_1
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    Jenni_D said:
    The DQ only wants to know how many people will be attending - from your side that is 1, unless anyone else will also be attending to support you or be a witness. (The DQ was designed to understand where the hearing should be and how big a room is needed - in these remote hearing days it is somewhat archaic but the basic premise remains the same).
    Thanks Jenni I understand now. Also I think what Coupon-mad said makes sense too. You lot are awesome Thank you. 
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 29 October 2021 at 12:56AM
    You'll be asking for it every time you email the court.   

    Rinse and repeat, in the body of the email, stating that the cases are mirror image cases on all the facts and you are acting as witnesses for each other and it will save court time to either hear them together or by the same Judge on the same daily list.  Say this at:

    - DQ stage.

    - again in the email at Witness Statement stage when you file and serve your evidence.

    Reference each other's claims and also use the third victim as a witness (poor chap, why would anyone pay and not Google it?).
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  • Suzy_1
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    You'll be asking for it every time you email the court.   

    Rinse and repeat, in the body of the email, stating that the cases are mirror image cases on all the facts and you are acting as witnesses for each other and it will save court time to either hear them together or by the same Judge on the same daily list.  Say this at:

    - DQ stage.

    - again in the email at Witness Statement stage when you file and serve your evidence.

    Reference each other's claims and also use the third victim as a witness (poor chap, why would anyone pay and not Google it?).
    Thank you. 
    It might sound a silly question but Just to be clear would it make a difference that mine was a courtesy car? 
  • Redx
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    Strictly speaking , the vehicle is irrelevant if a driver is known , it is you as a person being sued for alleged breach of contract !

    So if your Defence said driver , or keeper and driver , then nobody will be interested in the ownership of the vehicle , unless it centres on permits containing VRM data , or whitelists with VRM data

    So if you are defending as an admitted driver , it's about permission , promissory estoppel , etc
  • Suzy_1
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    Redx said:
    Strictly speaking , the vehicle is irrelevant if a driver is known , it is you as a person being sued for alleged breach of contract !

    So if your Defence said driver , or keeper and driver , then nobody will be interested in the ownership of the vehicle , unless it centres on permits containing VRM data , or whitelists with VRM data

    So if you are defending as an admitted driver , it's about permission , promissory estoppel , etc
    Thank you Redx. No I was not nor admitted to anything except being the hirer. So we can defend together. This is great. Thanks 
  • Suzy_1
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    Hi everyone 👋 

    can I kindly ask? Even though I’m going to print and fill in the DQ from the website, is it normal to take this long to be issued as it shows on MCOL history that it still hasn’t been issued? 

    Thanks 
  • KeithP
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    edited 2 November 2021 at 1:13PM
    Suzy_1 said:
    Hi everyone 👋 

    can I kindly ask? Even though I’m going to print and fill in the DQ from the website, is it normal to take this long to be issued as it shows on MCOL history that it still hasn’t been issued? 

    Thanks 

    You told us on 13th October that the CCBC sent you a letter. Didn't that tell you the Claimant had twenty eight days to consider your Defence?

    What you don't know is when the CCBC sent a copy of your Defence to the Claimant. It follows from that that it is not known when the Claimant has to respond to the CCBC.

    Further, we don't know what delays there are in the CCBC that means they don't send you a DQ as promptly as you might like.

    Can I suggest that you keep checking your MCOL Claim History and as soon as you see that the CCBC has sent a DQ to you, you are ready to download a DQ, complete it and fire it back to the CCBC, remembering to send a copy to the Claimant of course.
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