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Sharing one-time maternity allowance payment with partner?
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Retireby40 said:Pixie5740 said:Retireby40 said:Pixie5740 said:Retireby40 said:Spendless said:Retireby40 said:Siebrie said:I've been hunting for the source, but I cannot find it anymore, sorry. Probably an article in a magazine from either 'Child & Family' (Kind&Gezin) or 'Family Union' (Gezinsbond), where the explanation they gave was that historically, the money went to the Mother, as the Father was likely to use it to celebrate the birth of a(nother) child in the pub. Of course, not all fathers, but enough to persuade government to pay it out to the mother.
There's some pretty poor opinions on this topic and I do think if it was a reversal of roles people wouldn't be saying the same thing.
2 people had a child. 2 people have to pay for all costs relating to the child. It really is that simple. His salary. Her one of grant.
Was that the whole reason behind it? Or was that just used as a stick to beat men with?
Was it designed maybe to give women a compensation for their work in the household and independence? Yes.
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Pixie5740 said:Retireby40 said:Pixie5740 said:Retireby40 said:Pixie5740 said:Retireby40 said:Spendless said:Retireby40 said:Siebrie said:I've been hunting for the source, but I cannot find it anymore, sorry. Probably an article in a magazine from either 'Child & Family' (Kind&Gezin) or 'Family Union' (Gezinsbond), where the explanation they gave was that historically, the money went to the Mother, as the Father was likely to use it to celebrate the birth of a(nother) child in the pub. Of course, not all fathers, but enough to persuade government to pay it out to the mother.
There's some pretty poor opinions on this topic and I do think if it was a reversal of roles people wouldn't be saying the same thing.
2 people had a child. 2 people have to pay for all costs relating to the child. It really is that simple. His salary. Her one of grant.
Was that the whole reason behind it? Or was that just used as a stick to beat men with?
Was it designed maybe to give women a compensation for their work in the household and independence? Yes.
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https://www.parliament.uk/about/living-heritage/transformingsociety/electionsvoting/womenvote/parliamentary-collections/eleanor-rathbone/family-allowances-act-1945/
Family Allowances Act 1945
Rathbone always viewed family endowment as a women's question, a recognition of their contribution to motherhood and to fight the economic dependence of women on men. She launched her campaign in 1918 and published her seminal book, 'The Disinherited Family'. in 1924. It was of ‘immense importance' to Rathbone that the allowance be paid to mothers, but officials and ministers fought this premise to the bitter end. However they were unprepared for the cross-party rebellion that erupted when the Family Allowances Bill was published in February 1945, stating that the money would belong to the father. MPs Mavis Tate, Nancy Astor and Edith Summerskill agreed that the issue was fundamentally one of women's rights, and with virtually no support in the House for the payment to be paid to fathers, the bill was quietly amended. It was enacted in June 1945, marking a victory for Rathbone and her 25 year campaign.0 -
sheramber said:
https://www.parliament.uk/about/living-heritage/transformingsociety/electionsvoting/womenvote/parliamentary-collections/eleanor-rathbone/family-allowances-act-1945/
Family Allowances Act 1945
Rathbone always viewed family endowment as a women's question, a recognition of their contribution to motherhood and to fight the economic dependence of women on men. She launched her campaign in 1918 and published her seminal book, 'The Disinherited Family'. in 1924. It was of ‘immense importance' to Rathbone that the allowance be paid to mothers, but officials and ministers fought this premise to the bitter end. However they were unprepared for the cross-party rebellion that erupted when the Family Allowances Bill was published in February 1945, stating that the money would belong to the father. MPs Mavis Tate, Nancy Astor and Edith Summerskill agreed that the issue was fundamentally one of women's rights, and with virtually no support in the House for the payment to be paid to fathers, the bill was quietly amended. It was enacted in June 1945, marking a victory for Rathbone and her 25 year campaign.Similar when Gordon Brown introduced the new child tax credits in 2003, there was a big deal made about it being paid to mothers (technically "main carer" but usually shortened to "mother"). Also the big discrepancy between maternity and paternity pay & leave, the biggest in the developed world, which helps reinforce stereotypical societal roles.At least in 1945 they had the excuse of being before sex discrimination was outlawed and at a time when it was fine to say a woman should be at home and a man should be out at work.This is an interesting article: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/mar/27/shared-parental-leave-johnny-davis
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