Robert Jenrick MP .... GONE

Umkomaas

It's just a way of jacking up private charges if they are to mirror council charges. And which council will look a gift horse in the mouth if the BPA manage to succeed. 

But many council car parks remain free following the introduction at the height of the pandemic in an attempt to reinvigorate the High Street. No desperate reports of carmageddon as a result. 

When, where and with whom was this survey conducted?  Does anyone have the BPA report?

AnotherForumite

95Rollers said:

patient_dream said:

"Andrew Pester, BPA Chief Executive, said: “The findings of this survey reinforces the urgent need to review and raise penalty charges everywhere to encourage compliance with the parking rules. We will continue to work closely with government as well as calling for effective deterrents to inconsiderate parking both on public roads and in private car parks.”

Such a poor article.  

Why is he worrying or bashing on about inconsiderate parking on roads?!?  That has got nothing to do with and is beyond his jurisdiction as it often relates to RTA legislation and/or local byelaws!  

Gove is known for not messing about so will hopefully shut this lot down with their desperate bleatings!
He is not my favourite MP by a long shot, but isn't worried about being popular so will hopefully make the right changes this time and not suffer fools.

 Gove is from the world of journalism I remember correctly and has links with The Mail who his ex-Mrs writes for and have been exposing the world of PPCs and clampers for years so hopefully those investigations and reports will allow him to see the impact on the motorists!  BPA have no right calling for higher local authority charges as its none of their business to tell councils how to run their organisation. Just like they have no right to tell the police how to uphold the law (which is kind of what he is doing when he talks about public roads) or tell Tesco how much they can sell certain goods for!  They are majorly way out of line here.

The BPA are actually focused mainly on local authority parking, it's their #1 priority; the Private Sector is secondary for them (aside from their top 3-5 favorite private operators).

https://www.britishparking.co.uk/BPA-Members

95Rollers

I personally think that's a problem - they shouldn't be telling local authorities on what to charge. They are just an independent Trade Association. I guess I can see the logic regarding various schemes like Park Mark and ways of effective working, technology etc - but they are overstepping the mark at telling the councils what they should charge or raise fees. That's not their place in my opinion. 

Umkomaas

95Rollers said:

I personally think that's a problem - they shouldn't be telling local authorities on what to charge. They are just an independent Trade Association. I guess I can see the logic regarding various schemes like Park Mark and ways of effective working, technology etc - but they are overstepping the mark at telling the councils what they should charge or raise fees. That's not their place in my opinion. 

But local authorities are members of the BPA - and are represented by them, probably as AF (above) says, are in the majority numerically. 

patient_dream

AnotherForumite said:

95Rollers said:

patient_dream said:

"Andrew Pester, BPA Chief Executive, said: “The findings of this survey reinforces the urgent need to review and raise penalty charges everywhere to encourage compliance with the parking rules. We will continue to work closely with government as well as calling for effective deterrents to inconsiderate parking both on public roads and in private car parks.”

Such a poor article.  

Why is he worrying or bashing on about inconsiderate parking on roads?!?  That has got nothing to do with and is beyond his jurisdiction as it often relates to RTA legislation and/or local byelaws!  

Gove is known for not messing about so will hopefully shut this lot down with their desperate bleatings!
He is not my favourite MP by a long shot, but isn't worried about being popular so will hopefully make the right changes this time and not suffer fools.

 Gove is from the world of journalism I remember correctly and has links with The Mail who his ex-Mrs writes for and have been exposing the world of PPCs and clampers for years so hopefully those investigations and reports will allow him to see the impact on the motorists!  BPA have no right calling for higher local authority charges as its none of their business to tell councils how to run their organisation. Just like they have no right to tell the police how to uphold the law (which is kind of what he is doing when he talks about public roads) or tell Tesco how much they can sell certain goods for!  They are majorly way out of line here.

The BPA are actually focused mainly on local authority parking, it's their #1 priority; the Private Sector is secondary for them (aside from their top 3-5 favorite private operators).

https://www.britishparking.co.uk/BPA-Members

That list is public knowledge.  The question has always been ... why are councils wasting taxpayers money subscribing to the BPA, there is no purpose as councils are regulated by government.

Maybe people should ask their council about the BPA ?

Coupon-mad

AnotherForumite said:

95Rollers said:

patient_dream said:

"Andrew Pester, BPA Chief Executive, said: “The findings of this survey reinforces the urgent need to review and raise penalty charges everywhere to encourage compliance with the parking rules. We will continue to work closely with government as well as calling for effective deterrents to inconsiderate parking both on public roads and in private car parks.”

Such a poor article.  

Why is he worrying or bashing on about inconsiderate parking on roads?!?  That has got nothing to do with and is beyond his jurisdiction as it often relates to RTA legislation and/or local byelaws!  

Gove is known for not messing about so will hopefully shut this lot down with their desperate bleatings!
He is not my favourite MP by a long shot, but isn't worried about being popular so will hopefully make the right changes this time and not suffer fools.

 Gove is from the world of journalism I remember correctly and has links with The Mail who his ex-Mrs writes for and have been exposing the world of PPCs and clampers for years so hopefully those investigations and reports will allow him to see the impact on the motorists!  BPA have no right calling for higher local authority charges as its none of their business to tell councils how to run their organisation. Just like they have no right to tell the police how to uphold the law (which is kind of what he is doing when he talks about public roads) or tell Tesco how much they can sell certain goods for!  They are majorly way out of line here.

The BPA are actually focused mainly on local authority parking, it's their #1 priority; the Private Sector is secondary for them (aside from their top 3-5 favorite private operators).

https://www.britishparking.co.uk/BPA-Members

I find myself agreeing with you.

The top private operators will no doubt be those who bring in most money and influence, plus those on the board.  

Thrugelmir

patient_dream said:

MothballsWallet said:

D_P_Dance said:

What we realy need is another Prime Minister.  

What we really need is a government that actually gives a dam about ordinary people and not protecting the wallets of all of their rich supporters.

I think what we are seeing is a PM who knows he could be in trouble.

The last thing Boris needs is his newly appointed Ministers going against his voters 

For those in Jenrick's constituency, they should write to him about the new code of practice and the interference by the BPA.  Ask him to contact Mr Gove for a suitable reply.

Maybe Jenrick will ignore you as he has done with all your MP's

Perhaps there's more important matters to be dealt with at the moment. 

patient_dream

Thrugelmir said:

patient_dream said:

MothballsWallet said:

D_P_Dance said:

What we realy need is another Prime Minister.  

What we really need is a government that actually gives a dam about ordinary people and not protecting the wallets of all of their rich supporters.

I think what we are seeing is a PM who knows he could be in trouble.

The last thing Boris needs is his newly appointed Ministers going against his voters 

For those in Jenrick's constituency, they should write to him about the new code of practice and the interference by the BPA.  Ask him to contact Mr Gove for a suitable reply.

Maybe Jenrick will ignore you as he has done with all your MP's

Perhaps there's more important matters to be dealt with at the moment. 

I'm sure there are but this forum concentrates on the private parking industry which is the main focus

95Rollers

Umkomaas said:

95Rollers said:

I personally think that's a problem - they shouldn't be telling local authorities on what to charge. They are just an independent Trade Association. I guess I can see the logic regarding various schemes like Park Mark and ways of effective working, technology etc - but they are overstepping the mark at telling the councils what they should charge or raise fees. That's not their place in my opinion. 

But local authorities are members of the BPA - and are represented by them, probably as AF (above) says, are in the majority numerically. 

I understand that and also second the notion of why are they wasting tax payers money signing up for an ATA.  But my main gripe is that these ATA's are all about driving up penalty - I mean parking charges so they can get as much as they can for their members - that is the whole principle of an ATA.  But given the state of society at the moment - majority of people are on low incomes, public sector workers have had pay freezes (technically pay cuts), inflation is rising, a record number of kids are on free school meals, debt is at an all time high, we are in a recession etc - so where does an ATA get off on telling a local government which should be serving the community which pay its (rising) council tax with exorbitant charges for parking misdemeanours!?!  Parking ATAs aren't there to serve the public - they are there to make as much as they can for their members and find new ways of helping their paid subscribers maximise profits. Much like a union is there to get its workers the best deal and lobby parliament when necessary. This is why I don't agree with the BPA trying to tell Councils to jack up their fees just they can justify that their own agreed fees (set by a cartel no doubt) aren't bombastically inflated and unproportionate compared to Local Authorities!  I'd have more respect if they just told it how it was. Its not about managing traffic flow or reducing antisocial driving/parking - its about maximising profit for the members who pay them.

Thrugelmir

patient_dream said:

Thrugelmir said:

patient_dream said:

MothballsWallet said:

D_P_Dance said:

What we realy need is another Prime Minister.  

What we really need is a government that actually gives a dam about ordinary people and not protecting the wallets of all of their rich supporters.

I think what we are seeing is a PM who knows he could be in trouble.

The last thing Boris needs is his newly appointed Ministers going against his voters 

For those in Jenrick's constituency, they should write to him about the new code of practice and the interference by the BPA.  Ask him to contact Mr Gove for a suitable reply.

Maybe Jenrick will ignore you as he has done with all your MP's

Perhaps there's more important matters to be dealt with at the moment. 

I'm sure there are but this forum concentrates on the private parking industry which is the main focus

A first world problem in the midsts of a global pandemic. Sign of the times I guess and what matters to people.