Can I be prosecuted? Speeding NIP

AdrianC

neilmcl said:

BOWFER said:

No offence meant at all, but if someone is clear their car is leased then it's automatically crystal clear they will not get the V5 and will not get reminders for the tax.
It's not their car, why would they.
So this is what I mean by people struggling with the differences, introducing 'maybe' scenarios that simply don't happen.

Because, as already stated very clearly a number of times, there's a difference between who owns the car and who is the registered keeper.

You'd think that was a clear concept to anybody who's seen a V5C in the last decade, wouldn't you?

TooManyPoints

No offence meant at all, but if someone is clear their car is leased then it's automatically crystal clear they will not get the V5 and will not get reminders for the tax.

Not to this OP it isn't. He told us he has a a leased car of which he is the Registered Keeper. That's why he was asking for advice about challenging a speeding matter on the basis of a late NIP. I quote from his original post:

I am the registered keeper of a lease car, which I have had since September 2020,... 

and:

Number of days between incident (29th July 2021) to date stated on the letter (8th September 2021) - 41 days (=1 month and days / 5 weeks and 6 days).

Can you please confirm where I stand on this?

I fully understand that the lease company is normally the Registered Keeper of their cars and that they retain the V5Cs. Any correspondence (including the tax reminders and NIPs) will go to them - they cannot go anywhere else. In almost every case I have seen and sometimes helped with, where the individual insists he is the RK of a leased car, it turns out to be a false assumption. I was asking other questions to try to prompt the OP to return to the thread and clarify his position. However, he seems to have abandoned both this thread and the one he began elsewhere. I can only think he's contacted the lease company and discovered he was wrong.

ontheroad1970

Part of the reason for the confusion is the terminology.  If it is indeed a lease and not a PCP being thought of as a lease, then the terminology is often that the leaseholder is the "registered keeper"  and the lessee is the person that is registered (by the leaseholder) as being the normal keeper of the vehicle in question.  It's no wonder there is confusion.