Can I be prosecuted? Speeding NIP

BOWFER

TooManyPoints said:

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Do you get the reminder when the tax is due for renewal? 

They've said it's leased, so that'll be a no.

Jenni_D

BOWFER said:

TooManyPoints said:

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Do you get the reminder when the tax is due for renewal? 

They've said it's leased, so that'll be a no.

Bingo. It's almost as if some people do selective reading.  

BOWFER

Jenni_D said:

BOWFER said:

TooManyPoints said:

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Do you get the reminder when the tax is due for renewal? 

They've said it's leased, so that'll be a no.

Bingo. It's almost as if some people do selective reading.  

There's so many on here really seem to struggle with the differences between lease and PCP.....

TooManyPoints

There's so many on here really seem to struggle with the differences between lease and PCP.....

I'm not struggling with anything at all. The issue here (the OP's original issue, that is) is whether or not he is the RK. He says he is, but one or two other things he has mentioned suggests he might not be. Jenny_D mentioned that she has a lease car and did not know whose name was on her car's V5C. To eliminate one possibility (that it might be her name, as our OP here suggests is so in his case) I asked if she got the reminders for the tax renewal. So hopefully you can see the connection. This OP has clearly deserted this thread (and the one he raised elsewhere) and has unfortunately not responded to the questions asked so we will probably never know whether he is the RK or not. But the debate goes on here, and is interesting.

I don't post information I am not sure of. I don't post anything which I guess or "tend to think."  I only post information I am sure is correct. The same unfortunately cannot be said for some of the nonsense posted in this thread.

Jenni_D

But a company car is (almost) always a lease car ... and VED is paid by the lease company - it's part of the contract, and why you have a company car: all costs (except fuel) are covered by the lease ... so the driver/day-to-day "keeper" never sees tax renewals. A lease car driver also (almost) never gets the V5C so can't confirm whose address is on it - certainly that's the position in my case.

I gave anecdotal evidence that the Police have a way of finding who is the "keeper" - in my case they served a NIP within 14 days ... whether that was because my name and address was observable from DVLA data or whether the lease company turned around their S172 notice very quickly I've no idea.

TooManyPoints

...so the driver/day-to-day "keeper" never sees tax renewals.

I know. The reason I asked was to (sort of) get your confirmation that you (not being the RK) do not see the tax renewal notices. They are sent to the RK as his (or their) address. If our OP is reading this (which seems unlikely) knowing whether or not he receives the tax reminders may help him discover whether or not he is the RK.

I'm not at all "struggling" as suggested. Trust me - I know what I'm doing!  

... whether that was because my name and address was observable from DVLA data or whether the lease company turned around their S172 notice very quickly I've no idea.

The police do have ways which may help them to discover who the "person keeping the vehicle" is, but not from the DVLA database. And they do not use them as a matter of routine, only if the "usual channels" fail. If you got a NIP within 14 days it will have been because your lease company turned round the s172 request promptly.

DB1904

TooManyPoints said:

There's so many on here really seem to struggle with the differences between lease and PCP.....

I'm not struggling with anything at all. The issue here (the OP's original issue, that is) is whether or not he is the RK. He says he is, but one or two other things he has mentioned suggests he might not be. Jenny_D mentioned that she has a lease car and did not know whose name was on her car's V5C. To eliminate one possibility (that it might be her name, as our OP here suggests is so in his case) I asked if she got the reminders for the tax renewal. So hopefully you can see the connection. This OP has clearly deserted this thread (and the one he raised elsewhere) and has unfortunately not responded to the questions asked so we will probably never know whether he is the RK or not. But the debate goes on here, and is interesting.

I don't post information I am not sure of. I don't post anything which I guess or "tend to think."  I only post information I am sure is correct. The same unfortunately cannot be said for some of the nonsense posted in this thread.

The evidence posted on this thread suggests otherwise. 

TooManyPoints

The evidence posted on this thread suggests otherwise.

Perhaps you'd be kind enough to point me to some in order for me to learn from my mistakes.

BOWFER

TooManyPoints said:

There's so many on here really seem to struggle with the differences between lease and PCP.....

I'm not struggling with anything at all. The issue here (the OP's original issue, that is) is whether or not he is the RK. He says he is, but one or two other things he has mentioned suggests he might not be. Jenny_D mentioned that she has a lease car and did not know whose name was on her car's V5C. To eliminate one possibility (that it might be her name, as our OP here suggests is so in his case) I asked if she got the reminders for the tax renewal. So hopefully you can see the connection. This OP has clearly deserted this thread (and the one he raised elsewhere) and has unfortunately not responded to the questions asked so we will probably never know whether he is the RK or not. But the debate goes on here, and is interesting.

I don't post information I am not sure of. I don't post anything which I guess or "tend to think."  I only post information I am sure is correct. The same unfortunately cannot be said for some of the nonsense posted in this thread.

No offence meant at all, but if someone is clear their car is leased then it's automatically crystal clear they will not get the V5 and will not get reminders for the tax.
It's not their car, why would they.
So this is what I mean by people struggling with the differences, introducing 'maybe' scenarios that simply don't happen.

neilmcl

BOWFER said:

TooManyPoints said:

There's so many on here really seem to struggle with the differences between lease and PCP.....

I'm not struggling with anything at all. The issue here (the OP's original issue, that is) is whether or not he is the RK. He says he is, but one or two other things he has mentioned suggests he might not be. Jenny_D mentioned that she has a lease car and did not know whose name was on her car's V5C. To eliminate one possibility (that it might be her name, as our OP here suggests is so in his case) I asked if she got the reminders for the tax renewal. So hopefully you can see the connection. This OP has clearly deserted this thread (and the one he raised elsewhere) and has unfortunately not responded to the questions asked so we will probably never know whether he is the RK or not. But the debate goes on here, and is interesting.

I don't post information I am not sure of. I don't post anything which I guess or "tend to think."  I only post information I am sure is correct. The same unfortunately cannot be said for some of the nonsense posted in this thread.

No offence meant at all, but if someone is clear their car is leased then it's automatically crystal clear they will not get the V5 and will not get reminders for the tax.
It's not their car, why would they.
So this is what I mean by people struggling with the differences, introducing 'maybe' scenarios that simply don't happen.

Because, as already stated very clearly a number of times, there's a difference between who owns the car and who is the registered keeper.

We all agree that pretty much always the V5 will be held by the lease company and 9 out of 10 times they will be named as the registered keeper, however it is unclear in this scenario, given what the lease company's own website states, as to whether the OP is named as the registered keeper on the V5 with the contact address on the V5 being the lease company's HQ or they're simply not the registered keeper at all.