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Ibrahim5

Herzlos said:

Ibrahim5 said:

I have just looked up an R8. Apparently it is a tiny Audi. Expensive and unable to carry many people or much luggage it is a very poor choice of motor car and should not be recommended on MSE.

Are you just jealous you can't afford one?

It's definitely not bangeromics, but if I could afford to run alongside my minivan I would. It'd make for a much nicer commute to work, where I don't need any more than 1 seat and a laptop bag.

Have you ever driven something like that? It will have rock solid suspension and will be like lying on the floor. Most uncomfortable.

motorguy

Ibrahim5 said:

Herzlos said:

Ibrahim5 said:

I have just looked up an R8. Apparently it is a tiny Audi. Expensive and unable to carry many people or much luggage it is a very poor choice of motor car and should not be recommended on MSE.

Are you just jealous you can't afford one?

It's definitely not bangeromics, but if I could afford to run alongside my minivan I would. It'd make for a much nicer commute to work, where I don't need any more than 1 seat and a laptop bag.

Have you ever driven something like that? It will have rock solid suspension and will be like lying on the floor. Most uncomfortable.

As you're old and eking out a living on a pension, yes, i would agree - its not for you.

However I'm sure you can see how younger people who are richer than you may wish to drive one whilst they're still in their prime?

It also totally makes sense to ensure someone is running ANY car in an MSE way.   Given how you keep telling us how expensive main dealers are, theres a great opportunity for someone to save money there by using an indy, finding the best deals on tyres etc.  

They're maybe a car that the likes of the user on here McLaren could buy - he seems to be both richer and younger than you.

Herzlos

Ibrahim5 said:

Herzlos said:

Ibrahim5 said:

I have just looked up an R8. Apparently it is a tiny Audi. Expensive and unable to carry many people or much luggage it is a very poor choice of motor car and should not be recommended on MSE.

Are you just jealous you can't afford one?

It's definitely not bangeromics, but if I could afford to run alongside my minivan I would. It'd make for a much nicer commute to work, where I don't need any more than 1 seat and a laptop bag.

Have you ever driven something like that? It will have rock solid suspension and will be like lying on the floor. Most uncomfortable.

I have, rock hard suspension is great for taking corners fast. It's not something to waft around on. I wouldn't have something like that as an only car these days, though.

motorguy

Herzlos said:

Ibrahim5 said:

Herzlos said:

Ibrahim5 said:

I have just looked up an R8. Apparently it is a tiny Audi. Expensive and unable to carry many people or much luggage it is a very poor choice of motor car and should not be recommended on MSE.

Are you just jealous you can't afford one?

It's definitely not bangeromics, but if I could afford to run alongside my minivan I would. It'd make for a much nicer commute to work, where I don't need any more than 1 seat and a laptop bag.

Have you ever driven something like that? It will have rock solid suspension and will be like lying on the floor. Most uncomfortable.

I have, rock hard suspension is great for taking corners fast. It's not something to waft around on. I wouldn't have something like that as an only car these days, though.

Yup, agreed.  They'd be a hoot on the right road.

Most would be a weekend or third / fourth car, so not so much of an issue.

ontheroad1970

Ibrahim5 said:

I have just looked up an R8. Apparently it is a tiny Audi. Expensive and unable to carry many people or much luggage it is a very poor choice of motor car and should not be recommended on MSE.

It's only a poor choice of car if it doesn't suit you.  Which it doesn't.  I wouldn't get one as our drive is steep and it would ground every time in and out so would have to be parked on the road rather than inside locked gates. Doesn't mean it wouldn't a fantastic car for someone else who can afford it and enjoys it.  

Ibrahim5

Surely hiring one for a day would be all that's needed.

Herzlos

Ibrahim5 said:

Surely hiring one for a day would be all that's needed.

That's not very MSE though, is it? Why rent it when you can buy?

Or do you think someone with a sports car would only use it once? Most people use them weekly, so the cost of renting would quickly eclipse the cost of owning.

Edit: You can rent them for about £225/day with a pretty low mileage limit. Or you can lease them for £1500/month which is only about £50/day.

Ibrahim5

Once you've had a day lying on your back being jolted to death in cramped conditions you would realise that it's not the best way to travel.

Herzlos

Ibrahim5 said:

Once you've had a day lying on your back being jolted to death in cramped conditions you would realise that it's not the best way to travel.

I disagree, it's an awesome way to travel.

You don't like and can't afford it, so it's not for you, we get that. I don't know what you're trying to justify here, because plenty of other people love them (which is why Audi can sell them for £100k).

darrensurrey

Herzlos said:

Ibrahim5 said:

Surely hiring one for a day would be all that's needed.

That's not very MSE though, is it? Why rent it when you can buy?

Or do you think someone with a sports car would only use it once? Most people use them weekly, so the cost of renting would quickly eclipse the cost of owning.

Edit: You can rent them for about £225/day with a pretty low mileage limit. Or you can lease them for £1500/month which is only about £50/day.

Depends on whether you buy new or not.

If your budget can only stretch to say £40-50k (911 (997) Turbo or used R8 territory) and you didn't want to put mileage on the car because of servicing costs, then £225 every now and then is pretty cheap to get your hands on a newer model.

I've not really looked at leasing a new £120k supercar so no idea about implications, T&Cs, exit terms.

But leasing is still not ownership! (A quick look on Audi's website and I'm thinking it's cheaper to lease/rent/whatever than drop £120k cash on a brand new R8!)

Never thought I'd be getting into a discussion about supercar ownership on MSE!