Milk Shortages

GaleSF63

GingerTim said:

Murphybear said:

GingerTim said:

Couldn't find any skimmed in the local supermarket so ended up using Whiskas' cat milk in this morning's coffee - surprisingly decent!

What did the cat have to say about that?

He's more of a tea drinker, so didn't mind too much.

Does he put the milk in first?

MalMonroe

Rosa_Damascena said:

MalMonroe said:

GingerTim said:

Couldn't find any skimmed in the local supermarket so ended up using Whiskas' cat milk in this morning's coffee - surprisingly decent!

It's actually probably better for you than it is for your cat. Cats are lactose intolerant and don't need milk, except from their mothers when tiny. It's just we humans who think milk is universally good. It isn't. I just don't fancy drinking something that's not intended for humans. . . . Good thing is that cat milk has vitamins. 

It may not be designed for any purpose beyond weaning, but that is not to say it doesn't have a nutritional content. Its also an incredibly cruel farming practice.

If I went back to veganism I would struggle to get enough calcium or iron into my diet. The marshmallow side of me cannot imagine a life without tea and coffee on tap, neither of which I enjoy sans moo-juice. I wish I could be a better person and swerve it but if I try the person to ultimately suffer will be me.

You misunderstood my point. I know all about the cruel farming practises, which is why I said*, after I put, "we humans who think milk is universally good"  *"It isn't". Milk isn't good for us. Nor is it good for our cats. Nor is it good for cows and calves. Cats don't need it. Humans don't need it. But if a human wants to drink milk meant for cats, it's harmless. 

As a vegetarian (not brave enough for veganism yet), I have just been diagnosed with iron deficiency anaemia as a direct result of not eating meat. But I can take iron supplements, same as I need to have calcium supplements. I don't really need cows' milk for my calcium but I will admit that I'm addicted to it as can't bear the idea of tea or coffee without it. I also wish I could be a better person and swerve it but I can't. Not after - well, let's just say many years and leave it at that.  

MalMonroe

GaleSF63 said:

MalMonroe said:

GingerTim said:

Couldn't find any skimmed in the local supermarket so ended up using Whiskas' cat milk in this morning's coffee - surprisingly decent!

It's actually probably better for you than it is for your cat. Cats are lactose intolerant and don't need milk, except from their mothers when tiny. It's just we humans who think milk is universally good. It isn't. I just don't fancy drinking something that's not intended for humans. . . . Good thing is that cat milk has vitamins. 

Isn't the point about cat milk that it is made suitable for cats, presumably by taking the lactose out?

Yes but they don't need it, do they? It's just a money making venture by cat food manufacturers. And they get enough out of we cat owners as it is!! So I get a bit prickly about cat milk. It's just not necessary. So there.

GingerTim

GaleSF63 said:

AftgerTim said:

Murphybear said:

GingerTim said:

Couldn't find any skimmed in the local supermarket so ended up using Whiskas' cat milk in this morning's coffee - surprisingly decent!

What did the cat have to say about that?

He's more of a tea drinker, so didn't mind too much.

Does he put the milk in first?

Afterwards - but he likes his tea done in the microwave, the pervert.

GaleSF63

GingerTim said:

GaleSF63 said:

AftgerTim said:

Murphybear said:

GingerTim said:

Couldn't find any skimmed in the local supermarket so ended up using Whiskas' cat milk in this morning's coffee - surprisingly decent!

What did the cat have to say about that?

He's more of a tea drinker, so didn't mind too much.

Does he put the milk in first?

Afterwards - but he likes his tea done in the microwave, the pervert.

Purrvert.  

Rosa_Damascena

No shortage in my local Tesco earlier, until I relieved it of 10 pints

maman

Is it likely that supermarkets are limiting the range they stock? I haven't had a problem getting basic semi skimmed but the Arla BoB, that we prefer, was unavailable in both Coop and Sainsburys this week.

Sainsburys had a limited range of bread too, plenty of own brand but no Burgen. I'm wondering whether they're limiting suppliers possibly for cost reasons as well as delivery problems. 🤔

Farway

maman said:

Is it likely that supermarkets are limiting the range they stock? I haven't had a problem getting basic semi skimmed but the Arla BoB, that we prefer, was unavailable in both Coop and Sainsburys this week.

Sainsburys had a limited range of bread too, plenty of own brand but no Burgen. I'm wondering whether they're limiting suppliers possibly for cost reasons as well as delivery problems. 🤔

I'd imagine limiting stock. I was listening to one MD the other day and they had rationalised the lorries, so made one full trip instead of say two 3/4 full trips which inevitably meant some slow moving [or less profitable as I read it] were left off

briskbeats

maman said:

Is it likely that supermarkets are limiting the range they stock? I haven't had a problem getting basic semi skimmed but the Arla BoB, that we prefer, was unavailable in both Coop and Sainsburys this week.

Sainsburys had a limited range of bread too, plenty of own brand but no Burgen. I'm wondering whether they're limiting suppliers possibly for cost reasons as well as delivery problems. 🤔

Bread is delivered by third parties, which is done daily. Some weeks recently, we had five deliveries a week and its only one day gap, not two. On the Warburton delivery, we get some own label bread too as Warbies make for the supermarkets.

Unsure about Lidl/Aldi

sammyjammy

Rosa_Damascena said:

MalMonroe said:

GingerTim said:

Couldn't find any skimmed in the local supermarket so ended up using Whiskas' cat milk in this morning's coffee - surprisingly decent!

It's actually probably better for you than it is for your cat. Cats are lactose intolerant and don't need milk, except from their mothers when tiny. It's just we humans who think milk is universally good. It isn't. I just don't fancy drinking something that's not intended for humans. . . . Good thing is that cat milk has vitamins. 

It may not be designed for any purpose beyond weaning, but that is not to say it doesn't have a nutritional content. Its also an incredibly cruel farming practice.

If I went back to veganism I would struggle to get enough calcium or iron into my diet. The marshmallow side of me cannot imagine a life without tea and coffee on tap, neither of which I enjoy sans moo-juice. I wish I could be a better person and swerve it but if I try the person to ultimately suffer will be me.

I totally agree, I would find it very hard to give up Dairy, particularly milk.

Ever so slightly better for the cow and much less dangerous for you would be to swap to Organic milk, the antibiotics in the milk that are fed to the cow are the very well absorbed by the human body - not good!