Government Consultation re private parking charge levels, August 2021

Umkomaas

Fruitcake said:

I wasn't impressed by the responses to the online event.

Nor me!  The poorly presented lad fronting this was utterly indecisive, even after he'd finished his umms, gulps and swallows following each question. He seems to have been reading numerous questions on the screen in front of him before selecting one to answer, hardly an expansive meeting, I expect he'd have cherry-picked the easier ones. His sidekick was much better, but made comparatively little input.

Fruitcake

I asked about disabled occupants who didn't have a blue badge and he completely missed the point, saying, oh yes, the PPCs will definitely recognise the blue badge scheme. Grrrr.

Not the ruddy question!

I had to leave after half an hour so I don't know what happened after that.

ParkingMad

One interesting point raised was that the 14 day discount period proposed for postal PCNs is incorrect, because Local Authorities allow a 21 day discount for postal PCNs. They can only issue these if it is not possible to serve a windscreen PCN, which has a 14 day discount period. The postal discount should be 21 days to achieve fairness and consistency with the LA model, and to give people time to pay at the discount if they accept the PCN. 

patient_dream

Fruitcake said:

I asked about disabled occupants who didn't have a blue badge and he completely missed the point, saying, oh yes, the PPCs will definitely recognise the blue badge scheme. Grrrr.

Not the ruddy question!

I had to leave after half an hour so I don't know what happened after that.

Is this something we have missed ?

Umkomaas

For those wishing to reference the fact that there is no charge made to parking operators for debt collection whatsoever, you might find the following scans, which have now been removed from the IPC website, useful as part of responses to the Technical Consultation. 

Jenni_D

patient_dream said:
Is this something we have missed ?

I'm wondering the same - was there an online Q&A about the consultation?

ParkingMad said:

One interesting point raised was that the 14 day discount period proposed for postal PCNs is incorrect, because Local Authorities allow a 21 day discount for postal PCNs. They can only issue these if it is not possible to serve a windscreen PCN, which has a 14 day discount period. The postal discount should be 21 days to achieve fairness and consistency with the LA model, and to give people time to pay at the discount if they accept the PCN. 

This was a repeating statement I made in the consultation - the scheme should follow the LA model.

Snakes_Belly

"This was a repeating statement I made in the consultation - the scheme should follow the LA model."

I agree that generally the PPC's should be following the LA model. The LA model allows for more cancellations at the first appeal stage. If the PPC are going to allow more cancellations such as fluttering tickets, disabled badges and permits that have fallen off on production then that would probably work.

The adjudicators on the second tier appeals service should monitor if the PPC's are allowing the above mentioned transgressions at first appeal stage.  

MothballsWallet

Fruitcake said:

I wasn't impressed by the responses to the online event.

@ParkingMad did send me a PM about this, but I had to reply to say I wouldn't be able to attend as I'd be working  (I started a new job last week where I'm working from home for the moment, and the times conflicted), so I couldn't join you there.

Umkomaas

MothballsWallet said:

Fruitcake said:

I wasn't impressed by the responses to the online event.

@ParkingMad did send me a PM about this, but I had to reply to say I wouldn't be able to attend as I'd be working  (I started a new job last week where I'm working from home for the moment, and the times conflicted), so I couldn't join you there.

You missed nothing. 😳

patient_dream

UPDATE:

More and more of my UK colleagues are reporting back the replies from MP's

It seems that 80% of the MP's are furious with the MHCLG for even thinking they have any say in the matter that overrides Sir Greg's bill ?

The odd 20% of MP's appear to not understand their voters

This probably is the job of a select committee and for Robert Jenrick to explain why government approves a scam industry