Is it dangerous to move to house with structural issues

hnnguse

@weeg, @Section62 , 

I have checked the register and  he is not a member of Institution of Structural Engineer.  Can engineers practice without being registered members

hnnguse

@weeg @Section62 , I have checked the register and  he is not a member of Institution of Structural Engineer.  Can engineers practice without being registered members

Section62

hnnguse said:

I have checked the members register and his name is not there. I have only find the details of the independent SE which I instructed.

You don't have to be a member of IStructE.  He could be a member of another professional body such as ICE.

hnnguse said:

Do all SE have to be registered? If yes, I can then use this in Court..

In the UK you don't need to be registered or chartered to call yourself a 'structural engineer'.  You do need to be a member of one of the institutions (and through them the Engineering Council) at the correct grade to call yourself a 'chartered [...] engineer'.

You don't need to be a chartered structural engineer to write a document expressing concerns about the structural adequacy of a building.

But if you present that document as the work of a chartered structural engineer then (assuming the person is a member of one of the institutions) you could face disciplinary action from the institution, or potentially prosecution if you have presented the document (or yourself) to a court as having a qualification you don't have.

If you believe he is a chartered engineer then the most likely explanation is he is a member of ICE, not IStructE.


In terms of 'us[ing] this in court' be really careful.

If he isn't chartered then his opinion might carry less weight than that of a current chartered member of ICE/IStructE, but that wouldn't necessarily be the case if he was formerly a member and has in the past attained chartered status.  The technical knowledge and experience of someone who is no longer a chartered engineer could be given greater weight than someone who currently is. It depends on the individuals involved.

The main issue is one of honesty and integrity - if he is passing himself off as a chartered engineer and he isn't, the court won't attach much weight to his evidence.

However, if you make false/unsubstantiated claims about his honesty/integrity in court that could backfire on you - so only bring it up if you are absolutely sure of your facts.

74jax

Did you move as planned over the weekend, I was thinking of this thread this morning.  Did he return the children?

hnnguse

@74jax, thanks for thinking about me. I am so !!!!!! of with the chain as there were delays which meant we couldn’t complete last week. 

We are now completing next week😂😂.
I was hoping I would move before the court hearing and tell the court that I have moved . now I can end up being stuck. …or not allowed to move. 

I will keep you all updated how Thursday goes. I am instructed to submit my statement today

thegreenone

Sadly, you don't have to be a member but to be recognised as professional in your discipline, it is strongly advised.  Sorry no help.  Makes me wonder why he isn't a member if he's 'so good' at his job?

I'll have everything crossed for you tomorrow.

Section62

thegreenone said:

Makes me wonder why he isn't a member if he's 'so good' at his job?

As I explained, the OP cannot infer anything from this.  He could be a member of a different institution.

And then there are only a few roles where being a chartered engineer is essential or a legal requirement. There are many engineers who are excellent at the job they do but are not members of any institution - in some quarters being a chartered engineer marks you down as having the 'wrong mindset' to do the job properly.

E.g. at one time it was near impossible to become a Borough/County Surveyor (in charge of roads and bridges) without being a chartered engineer and a member of several institutions. You'd need to be approaching 'Fellow' level, if not already there.

Now you don't even need a degree in an engineering subject for the equivalent role, and some councils would be skeptical that a chartered engineer has the right qualities to do the job.


So unless the work he does requires chartered status, nothing can be inferred from his membership (or otherwise) of any organisation.

Furthermore, the OP would now be better off concentrating on getting to grips with the family law process, not looking for 'dirt' to throw at the ex. (however much he deserves)  Negativity about other people doesn't usually win many points with a family court who are generally very forgiving.

deannagone

Another best of luck with the court appearance.  

thegreenone

Section62 said:

thegreenone said:

Makes me wonder why he isn't a member if he's 'so good' at his job?

As I explained, the OP cannot infer anything from this.  He could be a member of a different institution.

And then there are only a few roles where being a chartered engineer is essential or a legal requirement. There are many engineers who are excellent at the job they do but are not members of any institution - in some quarters being a chartered engineer marks you down as having the 'wrong mindset' to do the job properly.

E.g. at one time it was near impossible to become a Borough/County Surveyor (in charge of roads and bridges) without being a chartered engineer and a member of several institutions. You'd need to be approaching 'Fellow' level, if not already there.

Now you don't even need a degree in an engineering subject for the equivalent role, and some councils would be skeptical that a chartered engineer has the right qualities to do the job.


So unless the work he does requires chartered status, nothing can be inferred from his membership (or otherwise) of any organisation.

Furthermore, the OP would now be better off concentrating on getting to grips with the family law process, not looking for 'dirt' to throw at the ex. (however much he deserves)  Negativity about other people doesn't usually win many points with a family court who are generally very forgiving.

Thank you, I do understand all above.  I was just musing.

Doozergirl

Good Luck tomorrow.  Let us know how you get on x