Don't have Housing proof letter for UC and landlady will not give a letter for UC ?

huckster

Just not proof of liability to pay rent.

What I would suggest that you do, is provide UC with all of the information you have available and ask them to refer to a Decision Maker.

Is  the current UC claim the first benefit claim to include Housing ? Or have you claimed any Housing benefits previously ? Have you provided the tenancy document for previous benefit application or even to a company for any other purpose ? Just thinking that the tenancy agreement details might be held for a previous benefit application.

kayshaw555

huckster said:

Just not proof of liability to pay rent.

What I would suggest that you do, is provide UC with all of the information you have available and ask them to refer to a Decision Maker.

Is  the current UC claim the first benefit claim to include Housing ? Or have you claimed any Housing benefits previously ?

UC is the first benefit to claim housing  and This is the first time i have claimed UC. 

huckster

So you have never provided a copy of your tenancy to anyone before ? Just thinking that if neither landlord or yourself has copy of tenancy, that if you supplied it previously to a company, did they keep a copy ?

poppy12345

Do the bank statements show you've paid the rent, with a reference next to the amount?

pmlindyloo

I have found this:

If the landlord is unwilling to provide a letter, you will have to write to the landlord, requesting a statement under Section 20a of the Housing Act 1988. Under Section 20, tenants have a legal right to request a notice, in writing, of the terms of their tenancy. Any landlord who fails, without reasonable excuse, to comply with a request within 28 days, is liable on summary conviction (meaning by Magistrates, in the lower court) to a fine.

Does any member of the family have power of attorney for your landlady?

Could you contact the family who live nearby and let them know that their mother legally has to supply details of the tenancy or otherwise may be fined?

It might help if you provided a letter detailing what needs to be written - date tenancy began, rent per month (broken down to show whether it includes bills), name of tenant etc etc  You could even draft the letter yourself and send/email it to them.

kayshaw555

poppy12345 said:

Do the bank statements show you've paid the rent, with a reference next to the amount?

No proof of any payment as all was always cash in hand.

kayshaw555

poppy12345 said:

Do the bank statements show you've paid the rent, with a reference next to the amount?

No. I would withdraw cash and give it to her as she is very old and i felt was a hassle for her to go to bank and withdraw and spend the money. 

kayshaw555

pmlindyloo said:

I have found this:

If the landlord is unwilling to provide a letter, you will have to write to the landlord, requesting a statement under Section 20a of the Housing Act 1988. Under Section 20, tenants have a legal right to request a notice, in writing, of the terms of their tenancy. Any landlord who fails, without reasonable excuse, to comply with a request within 28 days, is liable on summary conviction (meaning by Magistrates, in the lower court) to a fine.

Does any member of the family have power of attorney for your landlady?

Could you contact the family who live nearby and let them know that their mother legally has to supply details of the tenancy or otherwise may be fined?

It might help if you provided a letter detailing what needs to be written - date tenancy began, rent per month (broken down to show whether it includes bills), name of tenant etc etc  You could even draft the letter yourself and send/email it to them.

Thanks . I don't think so she will do it nor her children. I believe she gets the benefits herself and no allowed to have any tenants, may be that's why her children told me not to give their home address anywhere in banks etc. But i have bank statement and many other things on that address. Also i don't want any trouble for her due to her old age. She is been lovely always but she always acts according to how her children tells her. If i go against her i will be asked to leave the house and will be homeless

elsien

pmlindyloo said:

I have found this:

If the landlord is unwilling to provide a letter, you will have to write to the landlord, requesting a statement under Section 20a of the Housing Act 1988. Under Section 20, tenants have a legal right to request a notice, in writing, of the terms of their tenancy. Any landlord who fails, without reasonable excuse, to comply with a request within 28 days, is liable on summary conviction (meaning by Magistrates, in the lower court) to a fine.

Does any member of the family have power of attorney for your landlady?

Could you contact the family who live nearby and let them know that their mother legally has to supply details of the tenancy or otherwise may be fined?

It might help if you provided a letter detailing what needs to be written - date tenancy began, rent per month (broken down to show whether it includes bills), name of tenant etc etc  You could even draft the letter yourself and send/email it to them.

If OP is a lodger not a tenant then there are different obligations and it may well be that the section20 you are quoting doesn’t apply because OP doesn’t have a tenancy in that respect.
if she’s going to quote her rights she needs to make sure they are correct. 

It also sounds possible that none of this cash in hand is being properly declared and rocking the boat could end up with her being asked to leave. Again, lodgers are a lot easier to get rid of than tenants. 

Is there any part of the house you have exclusive use of - lock on the bedroom door so landlady can’t access, for example? 

tomtom256

The more information that is provided, the more it looks to me that there is no actual tenancy or liability to pay rent. Passing £900 a month in cash  with no paper trail.

How did you pay the £900 every month whilst claiming UC?