Legacy benefits

calcotti

Gig1968 said:
One moment for celebration for all people on benefits the sacking of that miserable faced hard nosed !!!!!! Mrs Coffey DWP minister ( who had no idea how the real people lived).

She's still there - unless you've just read some breaking news somewhere.

Alice_Holt

Gig1968 said:

One moment for celebration for all people on benefits the sacking of that miserable faced hard nosed !!!!!! Mrs Coffey DWP minister ( who had no idea how the real people lived).

       Can you provide a source for that, please. 



       Tomlinson, the DWP minister for disabled people was replaced in the reshuffle. 

      Here is a comment from Disability Rights:

    'Reflecting on the news of Chloe Smith MP’s appointment Fazilet Hadi, Head of Policy for Disability Rights UK, said: “Justin Tomlinson MP’s time as Minister for Disabled people left Disabled people at the back of the priority and spending queue. There’s been little recognition of the scale of the barriers that Disabled people face across society and the recent Disability Strategy has failed to put forward a radical agenda for change. “We welcome Chloe Smith to the role and hope to see improved engagement with organisations led by Disabled people to shape and implement strategies to transform the lives of Disabled people."

NedS

Gig1968 said:

One moment for celebration for all people on benefits the sacking of that miserable faced hard nosed !!!!!! Mrs Coffey DWP minister ( who had no idea how the real people lived).

It's Dr Coffey, Secretary of State for Work and Pensions.

Frank99

Gig1968 said:

Won't be long now till the government are dragged in front of the high court on September 29 and 30 to try and defend themselves against their refusal to uplift the legacy benefits. Should be very interesting indeed. Going to be very costly if they lose. 
The chancellor's pockets will be emptied again and again especially with the gas crisis just round the corner to help him out further.

One moment for celebration for all people on benefits the sacking of that miserable faced hard nosed !!!!!! Mrs Coffey DWP minister ( who had no idea how the real people lived).

I have no sympathy for the Government in the case of JSA, My nephew is a jobseeker and gets around £70 a week and the people on UC who he knows get more even without the uplift and he has to attend the jobcentre every week while his UC friend is told not to attend because of covid safety. He applied for UC and was turned down but he was never told why.

I think with UC being the Headline grabber the Government thought they could win more publicity by uplifting the most controversial benefit type.

It reminds of that thing at work when you find out the person doing the same job as you is paid a higher salary for doing the same job, unfortunately life is not always fair but i would love to see justice done in the form of the Government compensating those left out but i won't hold my breath. 

poppy12345

Frank99 said:

Gig1968 said:

Won't be long now till the government are dragged in front of the high court on September 29 and 30 to try and defend themselves against their refusal to uplift the legacy benefits. Should be very interesting indeed. Going to be very costly if they lose. 
The chancellor's pockets will be emptied again and again especially with the gas crisis just round the corner to help him out further.

One moment for celebration for all people on benefits the sacking of that miserable faced hard nosed !!!!!! Mrs Coffey DWP minister ( who had no idea how the real people lived).

I have no sympathy for the Government in the case of JSA, My nephew is a jobseeker and gets around £70 a week and the people on UC who he knows get more even without the uplift and he has to attend the jobcentre every week while his UC friend is told not to attend because of covid safety. He applied for UC and was turned down but he was never told why.

UC is a means tested benefit that's replaced 6 legacy benefits. It's one monthly payment that consists of many different elements, such as, child element, disabled child elements,  carers element, housing element (for help with the rent) LCWRA element for those that are unable to work because of a health condition. Everyone's entitlement will be different depending on their circumstances.

You can't compare your Nephew to someone else, who's circumstances maybe completely different. If your newphew is a single person living at home with parents then he will be entitled to the standard element only, how much will depend on his age. If he has savings of more than £16,000 he will be excluded from claiming.

If he's claiming New style JSA which is a contributions based only benefit then this is deducted in full from any UC entitlement.

If he lives with a partner they claim UC as a couple any entitlement will depend on their financial circumstances and earnings will affect the amount they're entitled to, if they don't have the work allowance.

calcotti

Frank99 said:..He applied for UC and was turned down but he was never told why.

Very difficult to comment on that without knowing the reason why - does he have savings in excess of £16,000?

Frank99 said: I think with UC being the Headline grabber the Government thought they could win more publicity by uplifting the most controversial benefit type.

The uplift was added to UC and WTC so that newly redundant means tested benefit claimants would get a benefit rate equivalent to SSP rate for those too sick to work. As new claimants are not able to make new claims for legacy DWP benefits legacy benefit claimants were not the intended target group.

Frank99

poppy12345 said:

Frank99 said:

Gig1968 said:

Won't be long now till the government are dragged in front of the high court on September 29 and 30 to try and defend themselves against their refusal to uplift the legacy benefits. Should be very interesting indeed. Going to be very costly if they lose. 
The chancellor's pockets will be emptied again and again especially with the gas crisis just round the corner to help him out further.

One moment for celebration for all people on benefits the sacking of that miserable faced hard nosed !!!!!! Mrs Coffey DWP minister ( who had no idea how the real people lived).

I have no sympathy for the Government in the case of JSA, My nephew is a jobseeker and gets around £70 a week and the people on UC who he knows get more even without the uplift and he has to attend the jobcentre every week while his UC friend is told not to attend because of covid safety. He applied for UC and was turned down but he was never told why.

UC is a means tested benefit that's replaced 6 legacy benefits. It's one monthly payment that consists of many different elements, such as, child element, disabled child elements,  carers element, housing element (for help with the rent) LCWRA element for those that are unable to work because of a health condition. Everyone's entitlement will be different depending on their circumstances.

You can't compare your Nephew to someone else, who's circumstances maybe completely different. If your newphew is a single person living at home with parents then he will be entitled to the standard element only, how much will depend on his age. If he has savings of more than £16,000 he will be excluded from claiming.

If he's claiming New style JSA which is a contributions based only benefit then this is deducted in full from any UC entitlement.

If he lives with a partner they claim UC as a couple any entitlement will depend on their financial circumstances and earnings will affect the amount they're entitled to, if they don't have the work allowance.

Ok thankyou, Income based JSA is what he claims, Sorry i didn't mean to offend by my comments, i understand people have different circumstances. Just my own personal opinion from what i have seen!

Frank99

calcotti said:

Frank99 said:..He applied for UC and was turned down but he was never told why.

Very difficult to comment on that without knowing the reason why - does he have savings in excess of £16,000?

Frank99 said: I think with UC being the Headline grabber the Government thought they could win more publicity by uplifting the most controversial benefit type.

The uplift was added to UC and WTC so that newly redundant means tested benefit claimants would get a benefit rate equivalent to SSP rate for those too sick to work. As new claimants are not able to make new claims for legacy DWP benefits legacy benefit claimants were not the intended target group.

Thanks, I don't know all the details as to why or how as it is not my business, i just go by what he tells me his friends get compared to him when they both live at home and have hardly any savings or pension, i just agreed with the author of the thread on this issue.

poppy12345

Frank99 said:

poppy12345 said:

Frank99 said:

Gig1968 said:

Won't be long now till the government are dragged in front of the high court on September 29 and 30 to try and defend themselves against their refusal to uplift the legacy benefits. Should be very interesting indeed. Going to be very costly if they lose. 
The chancellor's pockets will be emptied again and again especially with the gas crisis just round the corner to help him out further.

One moment for celebration for all people on benefits the sacking of that miserable faced hard nosed !!!!!! Mrs Coffey DWP minister ( who had no idea how the real people lived).

I have no sympathy for the Government in the case of JSA, My nephew is a jobseeker and gets around £70 a week and the people on UC who he knows get more even without the uplift and he has to attend the jobcentre every week while his UC friend is told not to attend because of covid safety. He applied for UC and was turned down but he was never told why.

UC is a means tested benefit that's replaced 6 legacy benefits. It's one monthly payment that consists of many different elements, such as, child element, disabled child elements,  carers element, housing element (for help with the rent) LCWRA element for those that are unable to work because of a health condition. Everyone's entitlement will be different depending on their circumstances.

You can't compare your Nephew to someone else, who's circumstances maybe completely different. If your newphew is a single person living at home with parents then he will be entitled to the standard element only, how much will depend on his age. If he has savings of more than £16,000 he will be excluded from claiming.

If he's claiming New style JSA which is a contributions based only benefit then this is deducted in full from any UC entitlement.

If he lives with a partner they claim UC as a couple any entitlement will depend on their financial circumstances and earnings will affect the amount they're entitled to, if they don't have the work allowance.

Ok thankyou, Income based JSA is what he claims, Sorry i didn't mean to offend by my comments, i understand people have different circumstances. Just my own personal opinion from what i have seen!

Are you sure it's Income based JSA and not New style JSA? If he claimed for UC in the past then this would have ended entitlement to Income Based JSA and once you claim UC you can't go back to the old legacy benefits.

I have no idea how you can make comments on someone's entitlement to benefits without knowing their exact circumstances.

tomtom256

Bit confused about JSA customers attending weekly and UC not, especially as most job centre's wheren't open to customers during most of the pandemic. Some job centres still aren't seeing JSA customers and are still only having telephone appointments with them. Whilst UC customers are now all being seeing with the focus on the 18-24 age range and Kickstart.